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Do more acoustics research before you buy foam, or other products. Rockwool and other similar products got a single industry white wash study to suggest their safety, and have been given the stamp of approval since. Meanwhile, employees in their plants develop strange cancers (like liver cancer, wtf is with that?).

I'd very much like to treat my walls with something like rockwool, but can't do it, not with the unknowns. I'd like to go with green/eco/safe treatments, but the price is prohibitive right now. I think you'll find a lot of (professional) people just say fucket, I'll be fine with the glass/rock... totally prepared to (suffer) and die for their music.

nowaysj wrote:Do more acoustics research before you buy foam, or other products. Rockwool and other similar products got a single industry white wash study to suggest their safety, and have been given the stamp of approval since. Meanwhile, employees in their plants develop strange cancers (like liver cancer, wtf is with that?).

I'd very much like to treat my walls with something like rockwool, but can't do it, not with the unknowns. I'd like to go with green/eco/safe treatments, but the price is prohibitive right now. I think you'll find a lot of (professional) people just say fucket, I'll be fine with the glass/rock... totally prepared to (suffer) and die for their music.

It seems so widely used, and I could not find anyone disputing the safety of this method of sound treatment so it seemed solid. Then again cellphones and artificial sweeteners have no proof against them, who knows how bad we will be effected by this in the future.

I am pretty set on foam at this point.. i have 160-180ft to cover without removing footage for my closet so it shouldn't be a crazy amount of money.... Ill be doing more research as well.

Hircine wrote:

outdropt wrote:

Triphosphate wrote:Have you taken a look at http://www.foambymail.com? Super cheap.

I didn't smh. I was looking in the wrong places

Got a preference/suggestion on pattern/type or is that just aesthetic?

it should look like a wave or an eggcrate

That's not true, there are great flat panels around.

outdropt wrote:

Triphosphate wrote:Have you taken a look at http://www.foambymail.com? Super cheap.

I didn't smh. I was looking in the wrong places

Got a preference/suggestion on pattern/type or is that just aesthetic?

I posted this just the other day http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=263934


Here is another site http://gikacoustics.com/product-categor ... ic-panels/

outdropt wrote:

Lichee wrote:

Aphile wrote:

swerver wrote:I personally wouldn't bother with acoustic treatment in a cheap bedroom studio - I'd spend the money on gear.

The easiest way to waste your time is to fuck with audio and NOT be able to hear what you're doing.

just because you're in an untreated room doesn't mean you can't hear what you're doing, all of the production masterclass videos i've watched of Icicle, Kryptic Minds, Alix Perez etc, artists that i'd consider to have very polished tunes just work in untreated rooms.

I'd agree that it's not really worth it, unless you spend good money and really know what you're doing (and of course are planning to be in that bedroom for a while) it could be a waste of time and money and end up quite messy.

I have a 10 by 12 room guys.... I know the acoustics are fucked up in my room.

I can hear a huge difference between my monitors and headphones. I can hear my room resonate when i turn up the volume. I know the frequency response is off and things tend to get muddier then when I play out of my speakers.

Tbh, i don't care for your opinions on why or why not acoustic treatment is necessary. I am looking to invest in bass bins and acoustic panels, regardless of what you say. What I do care about is the opinions of people that have acoustically treated their room. In regards to the material they used, placement, ease of application, ect.

I'm sick of trolls...

Excuse me? I worked in my room for a long time before treating. There's a book; Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio. The first chapter begins with my previous statement.

Don't waste your money on manufactured foam. If you did a quick google search and looked somewhere with reputable information on acoustics (gearslutz) you would have found that DIY treatment is easy, cheap and as effective as the real stuff. There are lots of guides online that require just one trip to Home Depot. I built my speaker stands, corner bass traps and i have more stuff yet to go. I was simply pointing out that the clown telling you not to treat was a clown; which he is. Treat your room but be smart about it.

Why you think DSF can give you accurate acoustic information is beyond me. I found my information on the topic elsewhere and it was very easy. Troll.

a studio covered in foam will dampen reflections, sure, and make it seem more focused as there won't be a lot of high-end bouncing around--but it'll do next to nothing to cure standing waves, nodes, and the huge peaks and valleys in peak response that occur in small, square-ish rooms. To start to get to grips with that, the easiest thing to do is get some bass traps in your corners. put some rolls of pink R-whatever on the floor in the corner for the absolutely-cheapest solution, but building the traps i linked to a few days ago will make the biggest change.

after you've dealt w/ the corners, if you're gonna put some foam anywhere, create something to deal w/ frequencies above your head. some absorption or diffusion behind you can help, sure, but that's farther down the list than dealing w/ corner reflections.

http://www.realtraps.com/video_diffusors.htm

These videos have a lot of info

Haven't read the entire thread and I don't know how far you are along OP. But I'll chime in and say a lot of money can be saved here with DIY treatment. It's one of the few aspects of a studio you can do really well entirely by yourself. Start with bass traps - quite easy to make, and they absorb some highs as well. If you use absorbers, do it strategically and you won't need too much. Deflectors and diffuses are also important, and just as easy to do DIY.

A little treatment goes a long way, and doesn't cost too much (esp if you make some yourself).