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Hircine wrote: Track 5: Reverse it, apply heavy serial compression, reverse it again. Balance this signal with the signal of the other four tracks, like parallel compression.

I've never tried this technique, what does it do by reversing it, compressing it and then reversing it again?

I will say that a good vocalist with a good mic makes a huge difference. Even a good vocalist with a mediocre mic makes a huge difference, catch my drift?

I've often recorded vocals in a small hall outside of my room where the studio is and they all came out good.

A piece of foam at the back of the mic is a good idea.

mks wrote:

Hircine wrote: Track 5: Reverse it, apply heavy serial compression, reverse it again. Balance this signal with the signal of the other four tracks, like parallel compression.

I've never tried this technique, what does it do by reversing it, compressing it and then reversing it again?

I will say that a good vocalist with a good mic makes a huge difference. Even a good vocalist with a mediocre mic makes a huge difference, catch my drift?

I've often recorded vocals in a small hall outside of my room where the studio is and they all came out good.

A piece of foam at the back of the mic is a good idea.

I really don't know, Sharmanji suggested it once and I tried it on a refix and I really liked the result, it's one of those subtle things that you can't hear, but you can feel it in the mix, you know? Like tape.

Worst recording situation is when the vocalist can't stand still in the booth and doesn't move back when he should and you have to sink the track in compression.

It changes the way the envelope of the compressor works with the sample.
Another technique you might try is using really subtle, automated delays. Either really low in volume or filtered.

So I tried this last night and got the song started. I used the bathroom in my apartment and it came out not bad. I didn't get around to duplicating the vocal tracks yet I just worked on getting it to fit properly with a 130bpm tempo and kind of just experimented. I compressed a bit and then ran it through Vocoder because it had some background buzzing. Amazingly the Vocodex plugin completely removed any background noise. It was pretty awesome. Tonight I will work more on this and report back.

That said, anyone have any experience with Vocoder? Is it a formidable plugin? I haven't gotten around to learning it in and out, but I like some of the options it gives you, especially removing any background static.

Rather than duplicating the track, record it again. One for the mid channel and compression channel and two for the side channels, this will give a natural delay between the tracks, it will sound "fuller". Same can be applied to guitars.

Interesting, I will go that route then and re-record the vocal track again. Have you ever used Vocoder Hircine? Which plugins do you use for your vocals?

Dustwyrm wrote:Interesting, I will go that route then and re-record the vocal track again. Have you ever used Vocoder Hircine? Which plugins do you use for your vocals?

Aside from Nectar for pitch correction and Eos for reverb, only stock plugins

Studio projects C1 makes a great vocal mic and I like to slap a camel audio space designer on the track... s

Hircine wrote:

You don't need a vocal booth. You need a small bathroom and a piece of foam blocking the back of the mic to reduce the room reflection. If you can, get a condenser microphone. Stay away from the m-audio and presonus usb / entry level ones, they lack high end and have a way too colourful (at least for me) low end. If you can't find a decent priced condenser mic, something like a shure sm58 will be better than going cheap. I can say that all the Krisiun and Dark Funeral vocals recorded in Brazil were either captured in the studio bathroom or in a room with a weird stone wall, no vocal booth business.

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Recorded this one of my girlfriend in my closet with a handheld zoom handy recorder. Doesn't sound half bad for my first actual recording. But yeah just a small room, put some blankets on the bottom of the door and tell everyone in the house to be quiet for a few minutes... Including the dog... That one's a bit harder to figure out though
Used some little foam covers I got from guitar center for about $1 each

Skeemstep wrote:

Hircine wrote:

You don't need a vocal booth. You need a small bathroom and a piece of foam blocking the back of the mic to reduce the room reflection. If you can, get a condenser microphone. Stay away from the m-audio and presonus usb / entry level ones, they lack high end and have a way too colourful (at least for me) low end. If you can't find a decent priced condenser mic, something like a shure sm58 will be better than going cheap. I can say that all the Krisiun and Dark Funeral vocals recorded in Brazil were either captured in the studio bathroom or in a room with a weird stone wall, no vocal booth business.

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Recorded this one of my girlfriend in my closet with a handheld zoom handy recorder. Doesn't sound half bad for my first actual recording. But yeah just a small room, put some blankets on the bottom of the door and tell everyone in the house to be quiet for a few minutes... Including the dog... That one's a bit harder to figure out though
Used some little foam covers I got from guitar center for about $1 each

this sounds really good man

Hircine wrote:

this sounds really good man

Thanks! Been trying to get a bit more into actually recording instead of just electronic stuff

Skeemstep wrote:

Hircine wrote:

this sounds really good man

Thanks! Been trying to get a bit more into actually recording instead of just electronic stuff

immogen heap vibes, or maybe im thinking of bjork, all in your gf's breathing tubes.

sounds good

i need to record mine when i'm done with these comprehensive exams

Very nice!

Dustwyrm wrote:That's what I thought - The first thing that came to mind is using egg cartons lol. I always see that on movies and stuff, I wonder if it actually works. I'll definitely have to check some stuff online.

It does work to a certain extent, it is a cheaper means of doing it.

Well that's reassuring. I do think it'd be much easier to just hang up blankets on the walls lol. But to each their own I guess.

Either way, I'm still hammering away at this. It ain't easy, but I think some vocals can really give my songs some life and I'm really set on doing them myself. It's kind of difficult to get male vocals to sound like female vocals without making them sound overly chipmunked.