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Hedley King wrote:I guess a gift voucher is basically the customer giving HMV money for an IOU note, when HMV can't pay their debts you join the rest of the people they owe money to but can't pay....administrators need to decide what debts to pay out on, not having your £10 voucher honored isn't as bad as people not getting wages owed

jaydot wrote:Their international film section is a rip off.

jaydot wrote:Good. Their international film section is a rip off. *doffs cap*

garethom wrote:

jaydot wrote:Good. Their international film section is a rip off. *doffs cap*

Really? Never found it overpriced apart from the odd film (which is no different to the feature film section). Find it quite cheap actually.

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

arktrix wrote:

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

Future is going to be free downloads, with limited physical product, believe. I think anyway.

teamhobson wrote:

arktrix wrote:

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

Future is going to be free downloads, with limited physical product, believe. I think anyway.

Yay, £50 gig entry and no records, yay

arktrix wrote:

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

Future is going to be free downloads, with limited physical product, believe. I think anyway.

arktrix wrote:

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

Future is going to be free downloads, with limited physical product, believe. I think anyway.

arktrix wrote:

teamhobson wrote:

arktrix wrote:

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

Future is going to be free downloads, with limited physical product, believe. I think anyway.

Yay, £50 gig entry and no records, yay

Where did I say that?

teamhobson wrote:

arktrix wrote:

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

Future is going to be free downloads, with limited physical product, believe. I think anyway.

Yay, £50 gig entry and no records, yay

Are gift vouchers worthless if a company is in administration?

Pretty much. Gift vouchers are categorised as debt owed by the company, so if it goes bust holders become unsecured creditors who join a queue of creditors looking for their money back. Administrators can, at their discretion, continue accepting vouchers but this is unusual, at least in the early days of administration. HMV has already stated it will not accept them.

If you have unspent vouchers you need to lodge a claim with the administrators and hope for the best. Failing that, depending on how much the voucher cost you could ask the person who bought it if they would be prepared to try and get their money back and give you the cash (see below).

So I shouldn't throw my vouchers away?

No. You will need them to lodge a claim with the administrator, but there is also a chance HMV will begin accepting them again. When Jessops fell into administration recently it stopped accepting vouchers immediately, but after the administrator had analysed the business it started accepting them once again.

I bought vouchers for someone else – can I get the money back?

It depends how you paid. If you paid by credit card you are covered under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act, as long as you spent at least £100. This doesn't all need to have been spent on vouchers, just the total of a single transaction. The protection also covers undelivered goods and those that prove to be faulty.

If you bought goods on other plastic you may have some protection. Visa, MasterCard and American Express all offer a scheme called chargeback, which allows customers to claim back money spent on a debit or prepaid card if the goods do not arrive or are faulty, or where the retailer has gone bust. There are time limits for these claims so you should act as soon as you can. See our factsheet for more on Section 75 and chargeback.

If you paid by cash or some other means you will have to contact the administrators to make a claim directly.

I'm awaiting delivery of an item – will I get it?

This is unclear at present. Contact HMV to see what stage your order is at (020 8495 4434). If it is ready for dispatch the company might still be able to fulfil it.

What if it doesn't arrive or turns out to be faulty?

If the company is unable to fulfil your order it is unlikely you will receive a refund at this point – any administrator will lock down the company's transactions until it can obtain a complete picture of the state of the business.

HMV has said it will replace faulty items in-line with its statutory obligations while it remains open (under the Sale of Goods Act you have the right to reject an item that is not of satisfactory quality), but if there is no ongoing business to complain to, you'll end up in the queue of people wanting their money back from the administrator.

Mason wrote:To be honest i don't really see an alternative to digital music or movies in the future, there are just so many advantages of the digital forms. You could either travel to a town, go to hmv, spend time in the shop, choose a dvd, queue, buy it, take it home and put it on your shelf which is just going to take up space after you've watched it. Or alternatively you could go on the computer with a cup of tea or whatever, in the comfort of your own home click your mouse a couple of times, input card details and bam you can almost instantly watch the film and once it is done it takes up no space whatsoever apart from a few gb on your p.c. Then if you ever want to watch it again there's no searching for the disk you can just search your harddrive and instantly find it.

As sad as it is that there isn't really any future in C.Ds or DVDs, i don't really think there is anyway to convince new generations that they have any advantages over the digital versions, except from the feeling of actually having a physical copy which they likely won't understand.

Edit: while writing this people have basically said the same but i'll post it anyway haa

Muncey wrote:Hopefully if they go we'll see more independent record shops, very unlikely but itd be nice.

teamhobson wrote:

arktrix wrote:

teamhobson wrote:

arktrix wrote:

wolf89 wrote:It's a shame on basically on a couple things which is that they did stock some good dvd companies who put out old horror movies I like that no other high street stores (down here in Devon anyway) stock. I hope it doesn't damage their sales too much.

Also having one less place selling physical cds (again one of the only places people will be buying from in my area) could push more and more people towards digital which is a shame.

However saying that. There are independent stores selling new records down here still. Sure the two selling dance music in Plymouth and Exeter have had to close but hopefully the dedicated will shop from these independent places that are there rather than going online. There is a new record store in Plymouth just that opened before Christmas actually which is doing well for itself that sells nice expensive vinyl pressings of new music along with the odd re-press here and there. People seem to be willing to fork out a fair amount to have a nice physical copy of these albums (myself included) I think really people are going to be moving towards independent labels and vinyl more than before for stuff they really like and cds are likely to die out a bit as everything else will be downloaded.

Future is going to be free downloads, with limited physical product, believe. I think anyway.

Yay, £50 gig entry and no records, yay

Where did I say that?

Haha you didn't but if its music you are on about how else are producers gonna make a full time career off free downloads an limited physical?