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Another Dubstep success story;

This guy got $3k to help with the recording and release of his EP - https://soundcloud.com/cree-topp

This looks very interesting actually, especially in terms of funding CD/vinyl pressing.

I guess it comes down to a combination of how convincing you are and sheer luck of people passing by your page actually liking your stuff.

Always worth a shot though

mthrfnk wrote:This looks very interesting actually, especially in terms of funding CD/vinyl pressing.

I guess it comes down to a combination of how convincing you are and sheer luck of people passing by your page actually liking your stuff.

Always worth a shot though

Depends how you get involved. One artist vs a joint venture with two artists, for example, would mean double the amount of exposure (potentially)

im still confused about this

do u put money into these things w/ the hopes of receiving money back once they accomplish the goal

or is it like some goodwill bullshit

I've tried kickstarter, but I've come to prefer snarestarter instead ;D

rayman612 wrote:im still confused about this

do u put money into these things w/ the hopes of receiving money back once they accomplish the goal

or is it like some goodwill bullshit

Example:
>I post a listing asking for $500 to get an EP mastered and released on CD/vinyl.
>I set break points where people can donate: $10 gets you a digital copy, $50 gets you a signed CD and digital copy, $100 gets you a signed vinyl, signed CD and digital copy, $500 gets you a lock of my hair, signed vinyl, signed CD and digital copy.
>People pledge based on what they want or how they want to help.
>If the total you set is reached within the time limit their pledges are cashed, you get the money, you follow through with whatever gestures you promised to your pledgers.
>You get the money you need to do whatever you want, they get to feel good and get a bonus of a CD or whatever.

Good summary ^^

i'll give sharmaji £15 if he releases qalandar

o ok yea i see now

Marcus wrote:

wub wrote:

Marcus wrote:Only way I would support a artist on kickstarter is to help them fund getting their release.

Like towards vinyl pressing?

Pretty much, a lot of great tunes never see the light of day.

I totally see the attraction, but it is, like said above (44% pass rate) - more than likely to fail. I can't fault anyone for trying, and I know I listen to a few guys who if they started one to fund an album, or tour or whatever - I would definitely pitch in with something, because they are under-rated or totally unknown. More of the latter.

And I have seen some worthwhile stuff up there, I just feel bad when I think of the pointless things that get - or will get - funding.

Wow, interesting stuff! I loved the Death Star, and it's got over 300 grand already! It would be pretty funny if they actually got the 20 million.

Yeah, pretty surprising that someone with 20 followers on soundcloud would get funding for a "computer that can run Ableton". I'm pretty sure that you can get a laptop for about £300 that would be able to run Ableton. The guys production isn't anything special either, so i'm sure someone with more production skill could get some money.

Nibzz wrote:

Marcus wrote:

wub wrote:

Marcus wrote:Only way I would support a artist on kickstarter is to help them fund getting their release.

Like towards vinyl pressing?

Pretty much, a lot of great tunes never see the light of day.

I totally see the attraction, but it is, like said above (44% pass rate) - more than likely to fail. I can't fault anyone for trying, and I know I listen to a few guys who if they started one to fund an album, or tour or whatever - I would definitely pitch in with something, because they are under-rated or totally unknown. More of the latter.

And I have seen some worthwhile stuff up there, I just feel bad when I think of the pointless things that get - or will get - funding.

Why feel bad though? Someone who is in a similar situation to a lot of us (bedroom/amateur* producer) is using a resource for it's intended purpose - to get money to do something they want to do.

[*using amateur here as in =/= pro, not mean as derogatory term]

billybuxton wrote:Do you think the fact that he didn't "make it" on his own impact how the dubstep scene and fellow producers perceive him ?

Was going to mention the same..
I wonder what people would think?

My only thing with kickstarter is, why?
I mean I'd love to press some of my own tunes just to have for myself..but would anyone even fund someone like me?
I doubt i'd make anything near 3g's like a kid making 'dubstep' with 21followers..


I think i'll just wait until I can afford it..or someone else wants my music that bad!

Seems cool if you can get the funding but who the fuck gave him 1k? I mean he only has 21 followers and i know that doesn't really mean anything but surely if your giving someone a grand you would like to think in a year that they're on soundcloud they would be able to get more, how is he gonna promote this 'clean dubstep' lp if he can't promote a soundcloud account? Anyway i'm probably just jealous, good luck to him.

Gurnumsbug wrote:I mean I'd love to press some of my own tunes just to have for myself..but would anyone even fund someone like me?
I doubt i'd make anything near 3g's like a kid making 'dubstep' with 21followers...

The concept of "why would someone fund me?" has an example of the kid w/ 21 followers...someone sponsored him[/], so why not you?

Mason wrote:Seems cool if you can get the funding but who the fuck gave him 1k? I mean he only has 21 followers and i know that doesn't really mean anything but surely if your giving someone a grand you would like to think in a year that they're on soundcloud they would be able to get more, how is he gonna promote this 'clean dubstep' lp if he can't promote a soundcloud account? Anyway i'm probably just jealous, good luck to him.

Again, philanthropy. If you appeal to someone with money, they may fund you the money. Irrespective of whether there is any legitimacy behind what you're doing...I mean, this kid has the money but doesn't seem to have an album out, does he?

wub wrote:Why feel bad though? Someone who is in a similar situation to a lot of us (bedroom/amateur* producer) is using a resource for it's intended purpose - to get money to do something they want to do.

True. I wasn't meaning producers though.

I just hope that something terrible or harmful doesn't come out of it - humans can be weird/twisted lol.

do rich as fuck ppl just trawl through that site looking for dickheads to give money 2

A friend's band "reached out" to their friends and fanbase to fund a music video through KS recently, and tbh my gut reaction was... to be a little offended.

Granted, I also have strong feelings about modern capitalism in general and the monetization (and subsequent damage done by it) of music, medicine, and ganja: music, to me, should be its own incentive. Period. Merging business with music feels wrong to me. Yes, I know this view comes across as naive and utopian and whatever. And for the record, I'm not opposed to people making a living off their music, but only if the cart of business comes after the musical horse.

Play shows, sell merch, license tunes - fine. But digital panhandling... eh. I think it's more viable for starting a label, but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth to say "give me money and I'll make some music."

Just my 2 cents tho. Probably just being a curmudgeon as usual.

So if my broke ass did this....people would actually fund me? or does 95% of all "kickstarters" get looked upon/ignored.

alphacat wrote:A friend's band "reached out" to their friends and fanbase to fund a music video through KS recently, and tbh my gut reaction was... to be a little offended.

Granted, I also have strong feelings about modern capitalism in general and the monetization (and subsequent damage done by it) of music, medicine, and ganja: music, to me, should be its own incentive. Period. Merging business with music feels wrong to me. Yes, I know this view comes across as naive and utopian and whatever. And for the record, I'm not opposed to people making a living off their music, but only if the cart of business comes after the musical horse.

Play shows, sell merch, license tunes - fine. But digital panhandling... eh. I think it's more viable for starting a label, but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth to say "give me money and I'll make some music."

Just my 2 cents tho. Probably just being a curmudgeon as usual.

I know where you're coming from there. I was reading an interview with one of the Winstons about the use of the Amen break over the years - and all the guy did was to moan about how they hadn't been fairly compensated. He was expecting payment decades later for a 6 second drum solo, and he wasn't even the drummer.

Just got me thinking, as my reaction would have been one of pride. If people were playing something i'd made decades later, if it had such a massive influence on the worlds music then i would be extremely proud and amazed.

I think that if money is someones primary reason for making music, they're in it for the wrong reasons. It would certainly be nice to earn a living from music and be able to focus on it 100%, but anything more usually comes down to greed.