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Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:31 pm
by fragments
cent4ur wrote:big ups fragments for this brilliant idea. for me it was the light in the dark, the one that i was waiting for.
i'm now in love with the new drums that i create. and everything that follows. and my project is also lot cleaner.
cheers!
Right on man. I used to have all kinds of problems with over processing and cluttering, mudding up my mixes, until I started going down this path. I don't always limit myself like this, but I keep things pretty simple these days and work with audio as much as possible.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:01 pm
by SunkLo
Fuck you guys, I'm gonna start a maximal setup production challenge.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:14 pm
by fragments
SunkLo wrote:Fuck you guys, I'm gonna start a maximal setup production challenge.
You are allowed a three-room modular synth, pure data on three high power dekstops, max4live on three high power desktops, a live symphony orchestra, a session band, a top of the line recording studio, three assistant engineers and a in-house vinyl cutting ME.
GO!
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:17 pm
by fragments
wub wrote:Nope, still on 8...if it ain't broke
Anyway, FLP file is as follows;
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5cij7f
With a screenshot as is;
Setup Channels
1) FPC
2) Slicex
3) TAL Elektro 2 (seemed most apt as an old school emulator style thing)
4) Morphine
5-8 ) Audio clips
All routed through to the mixer with their own channels as listed. For the Sends, I've got TAL-Reverb for that nice plate sound, and FL Delay 2 as it's a very simple no frills delay
All channels on the mixer are set to mono as shown.
I'll grab the file when I get home wub!
That looks like a great template for FL Studio. I bet people will be surprised how far they can take this setup. It's really not even limiting inside a DAW, you just have to put in the effort to resample and make smart decisions about what things to track together.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:23 pm
by wub
I had to Google how to set the channels at mono, turning the stereo separator all the way off. Wanted to use Toxic Biohazard instead of Morphine, but as TB is a FM driven engine it seemed a bit out of place and against the spirit of the challenge.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:31 pm
by fragments
wub wrote:I had to Google how to set the channels at mono, turning the stereo separator all the way off. Wanted to use Toxic Biohazard instead of Morphine, but as TB is a FM driven engine it seemed a bit out of place and against the spirit of the challenge.
Is there a free DX7 Emulation? I think that'd be fair. Good to know, I've been using the Brainworx free stereowidth tool to mono things!
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:34 pm
by wub
fragments wrote:wub wrote:I had to Google how to set the channels at mono, turning the stereo separator all the way off. Wanted to use Toxic Biohazard instead of Morphine, but as TB is a FM driven engine it seemed a bit out of place and against the spirit of the challenge.
Is there a free DX7 Emulation? I think that'd be fair. Good to know, I've been using the Brainworx free stereowidth tool to mono things!
Not sure...went for the TAL Elektro as it was a close SH101 (?) emulator.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:38 pm
by fragments
wub wrote:fragments wrote:wub wrote:I had to Google how to set the channels at mono, turning the stereo separator all the way off. Wanted to use Toxic Biohazard instead of Morphine, but as TB is a FM driven engine it seemed a bit out of place and against the spirit of the challenge.
Is there a free DX7 Emulation? I think that'd be fair. Good to know, I've been using the Brainworx free stereowidth tool to mono things!
Not sure...went for the TAL Elektro as it was a close SH101 (?) emulator.
Not that it matters, but I think Tal Bassline is the SH101
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:41 pm
by wub
fragments wrote:wub wrote:fragments wrote:wub wrote:I had to Google how to set the channels at mono, turning the stereo separator all the way off. Wanted to use Toxic Biohazard instead of Morphine, but as TB is a FM driven engine it seemed a bit out of place and against the spirit of the challenge.
Is there a free DX7 Emulation? I think that'd be fair. Good to know, I've been using the Brainworx free stereowidth tool to mono things!
Not sure...went for the TAL Elektro as it was a close SH101 (?) emulator.
Not that it matters, but I think Tal Bassline is the SH101
Elektro is an updated version of Bassline though IIRC.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:48 pm
by ehbes
What's the rule on combinators ? Cuz if I muck around enough I can get a whole tune on one chaneel
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:52 pm
by wub
ehbrums1 wrote:What's the rule on combinators ? Cuz if I muck around enough I can get a whole tune on one chaneel
Guess that'd fall under the same criteria as racks in Ableton and patcher in FL Studio...don't abuse them as a way of working around the guidelines really.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:53 pm
by fragments
wub wrote:fragments wrote:wub wrote:fragments wrote:wub wrote:I had to Google how to set the channels at mono, turning the stereo separator all the way off. Wanted to use Toxic Biohazard instead of Morphine, but as TB is a FM driven engine it seemed a bit out of place and against the spirit of the challenge.
Is there a free DX7 Emulation? I think that'd be fair. Good to know, I've been using the Brainworx free stereowidth tool to mono things!
Not sure...went for the TAL Elektro as it was a close SH101 (?) emulator.
Not that it matters, but I think Tal Bassline is the SH101
Elektro is an updated version of Bassline though IIRC.
Did not know that.
ehbrums1 wrote:What's the rule on combinators ? Cuz if I muck around enough I can get a whole tune on one chaneel
I don't know what a combinator is. Use your own best judgement. Keep it minimal and challenging. Is it like racks in ableton?
OK. Saw your second post. yea, I wouldn't abuse that.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:55 pm
by ehbes
Ok same probably applies for line mixers so ill stay away from em
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:59 pm
by fragments
ehbrums1 wrote:Ok same probably applies for line mixers so ill stay away from em
Yea. Basically don't do any of the stuff that makes producing easy lol
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:16 pm
by ehbes
fragments wrote:ehbrums1 wrote:Ok same probably applies for line mixers so ill stay away from em
Yea. Basically don't do any of the stuff that makes producing easy lol
That's why I though reason would have it easy lol if I wante I could turn one channel into the while thing. Take a combinator(1 channel) put an audio merger/splitter in it. route 3-4 14 channel line mixers into the merger. Then use as many instruments as I wanted, only issue would be the 1 of each inserts
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:52 pm
by ehbes
last question, are samplers considered synths in this case?
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:41 am
by cent4ur
ehbrums1 wrote:fragments wrote:ehbrums1 wrote:Ok same probably applies for line mixers so ill stay away from em
Yea. Basically don't do any of the stuff that makes producing easy lol
That's why I though reason would have it easy lol if I wante I could turn one channel into the while thing. Take a combinator(1 channel) put an audio merger/splitter in it. route 3-4 14 channel line mixers into the merger. Then use as many instruments as I wanted, only issue would be the 1 of each inserts
try working like in a modest analog studio where you use what you have and that only.
i thought i'd make a list of what a this modest studio could include:
1x8 mono channel mixer (as fragments suggested)
2xparametric eq
2xfilters
1x of each effect (delay, reverb, stereo imager)
2xsamplers
2xsynths
1xcompressor (simple or multiband)
1xmaximiser
2xdistortion units
go nuts!
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:07 am
by nameless133
This competition so close what I always do. Not counting Live's drum rack because it's maybe counts more channels or considered as a drum buss.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:20 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
this is a well good idea. dont have monitors at th mo but soon as i do im going to spend a few hours nocking something together like this.
Re: Minimal Setup Production Challenge
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:15 pm
by street_legal
Gonna get involved with this when I finish the project I'm working on at the minute. Sounds like a really interesting way of working and I know jack about using hardware so hopefully this could give me some idea about how it all works. Also the idea of working with 'less' sounds very appealing, keeping track of everything I'm using in my current project is starting to make my brain hurt