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Not sure if inb4 lock....

I always take the most convenient route to get software, I used to pirate all my games but then I got steam which is easier than pirating (constant updates, fast downloads, no cracking or keygens) and I haven't pirated since. I pirated FL at first then found out about free updates for life and bought it then I found that I worked a lot harder knowing I had invested money into it so I felt the need to justify my purchase. Since then the only times I've been tempted to pirate music software is when it requires a fucking iLok or whatever, DRM makes me want to pirate to make a point.

But yeah buying stuff is a good way to work harder for me, I spent £30 on a sample pack (enchanted circle drums) last month and cranked out 2 tracks in a couple of days because I felt I needed my money's worth

Anyone else find it ironic that the OP's user name is "downhill" ?

fragments wrote:Anyone else find it ironic that the OP's user name is "downhill" ?

Because that's exactly where this thread has gone! hahaha

waves c1 compressor is 24 bucks right now at plugindiscounts.com ... if your native compressor sucks (and if you're in ableton, it does) give that a go

Brothulhu wrote:I always take the most convenient route to get software, I used to pirate all my games but then I got steam which is easier than pirating (constant updates, fast downloads, no cracking or keygens) and I haven't pirated since. I pirated FL at first then found out about free updates for life and bought it then I found that I worked a lot harder knowing I had invested money into it so I felt the need to justify my purchase. Since then the only times I've been tempted to pirate music software is when it requires a fucking iLok or whatever, DRM makes me want to pirate to make a point.

But yeah buying stuff is a good way to work harder for me, I spent £30 on a sample pack (enchanted circle drums) last month and cranked out 2 tracks in a couple of days because I felt I needed my money's worth

The reason why would I buy software If I actually had money.

claudedefaren wrote:Because that's exactly where this thread has gone! hahaha

waves c1 compressor is 24 bucks right now at plugindiscounts.com ... if your native compressor sucks (and if you're in ableton, it does) give that a go

Big up. I might have to get in on that. I love that Waves dropped iLok...hopefully that'll be the last nail in the coffin.

Really it's not that expensive to kit yourself out with essentials. As long as you're not buying stupid idiosyncratic plugins dedicated to one narrow task. (I'm looking at you Waves)

Buy bundles and swiss army plugins and you'll be set. DMG Compassion is £150. You can get it bundled with Equilibrium for £300. Boom every dynamics and EQ task you'll ever have is easily covered by the pair.

Fabfilter FX bundle is $600. Delay, filter, distortion, EQ, compression, limiting, expansion/gating.

Get a powerhouse synth like Absynth or Alchemy. $200 and $250 each.

Works out to a bit more than a grand. And that's a pretty full arsenal of the top plugins. Not to mention you can substitute/supplement with freeware.
That's probably less than you'd spend on monitoring. I guess if you can only afford one or the other, invest in monitoring and pirate or dirtdog with freeware until you save up some extra cash. The price points of most software is aimed at professionals so I suppose if you're just learning and not making money with production it's not really a bad thing. Similar to how I'm not gonna buy the full Adobe creative suite because I'm not a graphic designer. But if you've got the money you should support the devs. Otherwise all the quality software will disappear and we'll just be left with a bunch of corporate douchebags pumping out King's Microphone plugins n shit.

^I should really just save for Compassion. I think you convinced me, again.

It's beautiful.

downhill wrote:[x/post from my gearslutz thread.]

Hi,

I'm a beginner still and I want to create dubstep / hard dance / trance type music, dirty sounding synths and fat thick basslines and crazy sounding effect sounds.

I want to buy some effects, I use DCAM and massive and just purchased sugar bytes WOW 2 and it really made my synths sound different, the drive alone makes it sound more in your face and prominent, add the vowel filter and the sounds are unreal. But WOW2 is good at what it does but a bit limited, can anyone suggest some effects I could use? I'm looking at another filter style plugin that can do chorus and flanging and also a reverb and delay plugin.
Also looking for something that would do a band sweep over frequencies a bit like fabfilter volcano.

I'm looking at the fabfilter creative bundle at the moment, iZotope Trash2 and also fxpansion Maul. I would get anything by Ohm Force but there pro tools support is non-existant.

I want something that sounds rich and gritty, dirty and full.


Anything else you guys could suggest?

Cheers.

You're a beginner - learn the DAW first and foremost. I've been producing for just over 4 years and the last 9 months I've done nothing but learn the SHIT out of my main sound production platform. Once you learn the limitations and feel like you need breathing space - THAT'S when you look at other plugins.

That track in my signature? Pure ableton.

SunkLo wrote:Really it's not that expensive to kit yourself out with essentials. As long as you're not buying stupid idiosyncratic plugins dedicated to one narrow task. (I'm looking at you Waves)

Buy bundles and swiss army plugins and you'll be set. DMG Compassion is £150. You can get it bundled with Equilibrium for £300. Boom every dynamics and EQ task you'll ever have is easily covered by the pair.

Fabfilter FX bundle is $600. Delay, filter, distortion, EQ, compression, limiting, expansion/gating.

Get a powerhouse synth like Absynth or Alchemy. $200 and $250 each.

Works out to a bit more than a grand. And that's a pretty full arsenal of the top plugins. Not to mention you can substitute/supplement with freeware.
That's probably less than you'd spend on monitoring. I guess if you can only afford one or the other, invest in monitoring and pirate or dirtdog with freeware until you save up some extra cash. The price points of most software is aimed at professionals so I suppose if you're just learning and not making money with production it's not really a bad thing. Similar to how I'm not gonna buy the full Adobe creative suite because I'm not a graphic designer. But if you've got the money you should support the devs. Otherwise all the quality software will disappear and we'll just be left with a bunch of corporate douchebags pumping out King's Microphone plugins n shit.

I think the first thing im gonna invest in once i get paid (assuming i get this job next week *fingers crossed*) is ether the DMG stuff or the Fab mastering bundle. Decisions, decisions.

BTW, Fabs sale ends today. Get em while there hot!

They're both pretty great. If I was you I'd probably go for DMG for sheer versatility. I rarely use Compassion on the master but it's very well equipped. And Equilibrium is perfect for any scenario from tracking to mastering.

Granted my default EQ is Pro-Q because of the simple interface and ease of use. I rarely use Pro-C except for sidechaining, again because of the ease of use. Pro-L is highly acclaimed and quite transparent.

wub wrote:I'd learn the stuff you've got inside out before buying anything new.

pm me your credit card info and I will help you buy all the plugins you want

who the hell buys plugins

that has to be a joke?