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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:49 am
by Forum
The alternatives are that the rebels attacked themselves with chemical weapons to get support from US or that the US did it to give an excuse for invasion (no chance)

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:00 pm
by nitz
What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:04 pm
by Electric_Head
War does not need to have a financial benefit to occur.
There are multiple ulterior motives for war.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:06 pm
by hutyluty
nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
idk really but well

1. the arms manufacturers make a killing again
2. Iran gets it's one major ally removed permanently
3. The oil producing states- saudi, qatar etc are placated and even more firmly in the american's pocket.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:25 pm
by Gryphonyx
I think Obama played this one to Cameron on the phone today


Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:33 pm
by MrBlack
British and American troops are due to pull out of afghan in 2015 aren't they? It's pretty obvious that our governments need another war to keep them occupied with.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:35 pm
by Electric_Head
MrBlack wrote:British and American troops are due to pull out of afghan in 2015 aren't they? It's pretty obvious that our governments need another war to keep them occupied with.
If I'm not mistaken, Obama used the troops pulling out of afghan as his way of upping votes.
They're still there though.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:43 pm
by MrBlack
Electric_Head wrote:
MrBlack wrote:British and American troops are due to pull out of afghan in 2015 aren't they? It's pretty obvious that our governments need another war to keep them occupied with.
If I'm not mistaken, Obama used the troops pulling out of afghan as his way of upping votes.
They're still there though.
I think he did, but he's lied about so much anyway. It doesn't matter when they leave though, because as soon as they do it'll all go tits up. Pretty much what happened in Vietnam, but governments don't learn from their mistakes do they. They've made thousands of soldiers redundant just so they don't have to pay them their full pension. Then proceed to recruit the same amount, basically conscripting them into the lower paid roles, saving themselves a nice wad of cash.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:55 pm
by Electric_Head
?

So you are more concerned for the unemployed soldiers than the senseless warfare causing numerous deaths.?? like in Vietnam.
And the way 10000 of young men go to war thinking they are doing the right thing for the freedom of their country.
But in the end they realize they have done nothing but further a governments greed.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:05 pm
by deadly_habit
nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
Oil

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:14 pm
by Terpit
This is complicated as fuck, the rebels aren't the 'good guys' btw, they have been doing awful stuff

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:17 pm
by deadly_habit
Terpit wrote:This is complicated as fuck, the rebels aren't the 'good guys' btw, they have been doing awful stuff
yea they actually are terrorists for a change.
With US funding too.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:27 pm
by NickUndercover
Hezbollah joining the party and promising to reignite the southern Lebanon front in case of a US attack. This is gonna be one big clusterfuck

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:36 pm
by deadly_habit

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:48 pm
by alphacat
deadly habit wrote:
nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
Oil
I think in this case oil is actually secondary, or rather proximity to it since Syria is a relatively smaller producer.

I'll bet the House of Saud would love to see one of he two Shia-majority countries deballed though. That and many Muslims think Alawis (Assad's sect) are a little creepy.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:51 pm
by deadly_habit
alphacat wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
Oil
I think in this case oil is actually secondary, or rather proximity to it since Syria is a relatively smaller producer.

I'll bet the House of Saud would love to see one of he two Shia-majority countries deballed though. That and many Muslims think Alawis (Assad's sect) are a little creepy.
If you want a good casual read on the region http://www.amazon.com/The-Saudis-Inside ... 0393324176

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:51 pm
by ezza
if we get involved and then Russia wanna attack us... are we fucked?

cus thats long

allow it cameron you wasteman

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:55 pm
by deadly_habit
Agent 47 wrote:if we get involved and then Russia wanna attack us... are we fucked?

cus thats long

allow it cameron you wasteman
If Russia gets involved in anything China will as well, and the west will be fucked if they call up their debts.

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:56 pm
by Terpit
I think 'not looking morally repugnant' is the main benefit tbh

Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:56 pm
by ezza
deadly habit wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:if we get involved and then Russia wanna attack us... are we fucked?

cus thats long

allow it cameron you wasteman
If Russia gets involved in anything China will as well, and the west will be fucked if they call up their debts.
what dya mean?

i know nothing about this shit :oops: