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Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:22 pm
by hutyluty
well tbh even if they do go the whole way and ban everything no optins or owt itll still be pretty easy to get round.

policy for the votes old people who dont understand the internet made up by people who dont understand the internet imo

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:21 pm
by MrBlack
^People that don't understand the modern world, and would love it if 1066 came around again imo. It's basically the same people that run the UK today anyway.....

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:36 pm
by Mr Hyde
MrBlack wrote:^People that don't understand the modern world, and would love it if 1066 came around again imo. It's basically the same people that run the UK today anyway.....
They want a Norman invasion?

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:43 pm
by m8son666
Ive been waiting for a norman invasion for years now

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:58 pm
by syrup
Esoteric makes me think of incense n candles n stuff

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:06 pm
by MrBlack
Use your brains bro's, it's really not hard to understand what I meant.

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:16 pm
by alphacat
johney wrote:Esoteric makes me think of incense n candles n stuff
[with lisp] "IT'S TIME FOR CANDLEWAX ON THE NIPPLEZ, BITCHEZ...." :6:

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:56 pm
by m8son666
MrBlack wrote:Use your brains bro's, it's really not hard to understand what I meant.
U think people wanna be time travellers?

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:55 pm
by rorz9992
Maybe now I will finally get over my porn addiction


edit: hang on, there's a danger that the Bodybuilding.com forums will be blocked?! Holy shit that's my favourite ever forum, the Misc section is hilarious :(

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:22 pm
by CreamLord
Will be pissed if dsf is blocked

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:23 pm
by alphacat
Some more details. The source here - a blog written by someone practicing alternative spirituality, namely neopaganism - is irrelevant except for their inclusion into this pretty broad categorization. Some other (somewhat frightening) salient details include that some of this shit's gonna be outsourced to....

wait for it...


wait for it....



the Chinese.


Dude. :o

wildhunt.org wrote:
Will UK Internet Companies Start Filtering Esoteric Content?

I’ve long taken a keen interest in the business of Internet filtering, and how its genesis with conservative Christian social values have reverberated far beyond that niche market. However, Internet filtering issues aren’t isolated to America, and the UK is currently embroiled in a controversy over mandatory “opt-out” filters for adult content. Image
UK Prime Minister David Cameron
“Most households in the UK will have pornography blocked by their internet provider unless they choose to receive it, David Cameron has announced. [...] Mr Cameron warned in a speech that access to online pornography was “corroding childhood”. The new measures will apply to both existing and new customers. Mr Cameron also called for some “horrific” internet search terms to be “blacklisted”, meaning they would automatically bring up no results on websites such as Google or Bing.”
That announcement last week was enough to generate a lot of debate over access to information, which only intensified when it was discovered that the filtering company that would implement Prime Minister Cameron’s deal with the four biggest ISPs was Chinese firm Huawei.
“The Intelligence and Security Committee (ISC) committee said ‘the alleged links between Huawei and the Chinese State are concerning, as they generate suspicion as to whether Huawei’s intentions are strictly commercial or are more political’ – but added that it had not found any evidence of wrongdoing.”
On top of that, was a troubling revelation that the “opt out” filter may be filtering a lot more than porn.
“The essential detail is that they will assume you want filters enabled across a wide range of content, and unless you un-tick the option, network filters will be enabled. As we’ve said repeatedly, it’s not just about hardcore pornography.”
One of those filtering categories? According to Open Rights Group, “broad indications” from ISPs point to “esoteric material” being one of the default opt-out filtering categories. This broader opt-out mandate is being reported by Wired and The Huffington Post, though no further details about what, exactly, would be included in an “esoteric material” category.
“What’s clear here is that David Cameron wants people to sleepwalk into censorship. We know that people stick with defaults: this is part of the idea behind ‘nudge theory’ and ‘choice architecture’ that is popular with Cameron. [...] The implication is that filtering is good, or at least harmless, for anyone, whether adult or child. Of course, this is not true; there’s not just the question of false positives for web users, but the affect on a network economy of excluding a proportion of a legitimate website’s audience.” - Jim Killock, Open Rights Group
Which brings us back to the genesis of Internet filtering, the confluence of socially conservative religious groups and Internet policy. Where will the site lists for default blocked categories come from? Will they, like some institutional filters, block Pagan sites? A long history of Pagan engagement with these filters points to it being a reasonable assumption. The trouble is that we most likely won’t know until the filter is already in place, and Cameron has intimated that he was willing to legislate compliance if the ISPs balk at his plan. For now, Open Rights Group has launched a petition to stop David Cameron from “sleepwalking into censorship.”
“Adult filtering amounts to censoring legal content. The UK would be the only modern democratic society to do this. This sets a terrible example to other countries with interests in suppressing information.”
We don’t know, exactly, what will and won’t be blocked once the filters are enabled. It could vary among providers. The list printed by Open Rights Group is based on “brief conversations with some of the Internet Service Providers” that will be putting the filters in place. According to ORG, “they [the ISPs] will assume you want filters enabled across a wide range of content,” and “esoteric material” is a default category gleaned from “broad indications” and “current mobil configurations.” Sophia Catherine, of the Divine Community podcast, warns against over-reaction.
“Open Rights have NOT said that ‘esoteric content’ will be censored. This is a misinterpretation of their article, which has been doing the rounds online for a couple of days, and which they have edited their article in an attempt to counter. I quote from their article on the subject: “The category examples are based on current mobile configurations and broad indications from ISP” (i.e. this is a guess based on a few informal trend), and “The precise pre-ticked options may vary from service to service.” I think it is incredibly important not to jump to conclusions before any research has been done into this story. The fact is that nobody knows if ‘esoteric content’ will be filtered or not, and the signs at the moment suggest that it will not be filtered by default – if it is, it will happen service-provider-by-service provider. It is so important to get facts straight when we’re campaigning about incidents that may affect the Pagan community. And this is an overreaction based on incomplete information.”
Despite these uncertainties, it is important that our communities pay close attention to the implementation of this filter, and make sure access to Pagan and esoteric religious content is not blocked. I will be following up on this story as it develops, and will consult with UK Pagan leaders and clergy.

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:30 pm
by m8son666
Id gladly stop being able to watch porn if it will piss some shitbag hippies off

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:33 pm
by alphacat
m8son wrote:Id gladly stop being able to watch porn if it will piss some shitbag hippies off
They'll love it even more when you can't talk shit about them on SNH.

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:38 pm
by m8son666
I wont need snh when im on another plane watching myself access my lower chakra through my third eye

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:43 pm
by CreamLord
m8son wrote:I wont need snh when im on another plane watching myself access my lower chakra through my cock

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:45 pm
by m8son666
Even better

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:01 am
by Harkat
M8son = zomby?

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:05 am
by Forum
I've just switched to bt but it wasn't me that set it up, I bet that bell ends told them he wants filters

Re: UK to Censor 'Esoteric Material' from Internet

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:59 pm
by _ronzlo_
So the good news is that you're all still fapping in the UK.

Esoteric Censorship

Around this time last year the British government announced Draconian plans to censor the internet. This should have been big news, because censorship has always been one of the clearest indicators that a government is starting to fear its own subjects. Yet apart from a brief flurry of headlines, the mainstream media barely covered the story.

One reason is that the most loudly announced target for censorship was pornography, and no-one wanted to be seen to be “defending porn”. The other reason is that the censorship didn’t involve any new legislation. There were no new laws that made it illegal to view the “censored” material. Instead, the government simply persuaded ISPs to install content-filters that would be switched “on” by default. Users were still at liberty to switch the filters off if they wanted to.

But the government’s target wasn’t just porn – the new initiative also targeted what they described as “esoteric material”. The mainstream media more or less ignored this. Their readers wouldn’t even know what esoteric means, let alone have any desire to access it on the internet. It bothered me, though, because a lot of the material on this blog is “esoteric”. UFOs, conspiracy theories, the occult, alternative religions, paganism, witchcraft ... I’ve covered all that stuff at one time or another.

Needless to say, some of the internet’s fringier forums immediately pounced on what they saw as the government’s hidden agenda. Pornography was just a cover story – what the government really wanted to do was to suppress the Truth. And on said forums, the Truth is synonymous with the esoteric.

Between the silence of the mass media and the hysteria of the fringe forums, the only intelligent analysis of the subject I’ve seen was a piece by Ian Simmons in Fortean Times earlier this year (FT312: “Cameron versus Forteana?”). His common-sense take on the story is that it’s a clumsy attempt to woo middle-class voters by being seen to “protect children from harmful influences”. To the government, “esoteric material” means evil cults and Satan worship (which is pretty much what “witchcraft” meant to their predecessors in the 17th century).

Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”

“So what?” says Mr Cameron. A filter that is on by default doesn’t negate Article 19, because people can always choose to switch the filter off. Nevertheless, both the crusading supporters of the filter initiative, and its scaremongering opponents, took it for granted that the majority of internet users wouldn’t be clever enough to do that.

But they were wrong. According to a BBC article a few days ago, “New broadband users shun UK porn filters” . People aren’t fools after all – an official report found that “users had overwhelmingly opted-out of the filter”.

And I haven’t noticed a drop in the number of visitors to this site, either.