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hubb wrote:Bad look.

The whole Analord deal was cringey as it were and now this is just fucked
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Wait what? The Analord EPs are by far some of the best stuff he's released.

I'm not talking about the musics own quality despite it CLEARLY being some of his worst bits ( I love all of it, dont get me wrong), but the collector aspect which I find highly offensive and wrong. It's bordering on merchandise.

analord is the best that apex has done, but yeah some digital release would be heaven

I always listen the full 3 hours analord video when i read superhero comics, the realness gets released...

No, but see this as an invitation to dig in to his other work. It's not up to discussion

No you...

but i can't see how is mechandising, what does richrd wins of people selling eps at silly prices in discogs??

and i have digged up in all of his work and different alias, or at least what is in youtube and we are the music makers old torrents

it's fetischising all the external factors of that product

he might not even be involved in other aspects than deeming it unfit for release ten years ago (?).


I mean there's no artistic problem with analord as such, it's great, but it's not as revolutionary or influential as experiencing the time when some of his other stuff came out like druqsz or richard j james or just debuting with an almost entirely atmospheric album at that time.
Analord proved nothing and every track seemed like a sequel to previous work.
All the styles/ or aesthetic risk takings there, had already been tried or carried out.
The proof is in how it was presented to a group of followers or fans, instead of the music scene as a whole. It's silly to take that position when even fucking Madonna and the rest of the world already recognised his work. It's a sign that they knew at least the geeks would lap it up. It's not like his other stuff was pop either.

i don't care about groundbreaking now, maybe in 2000 but now? but the tunes of analord are so good that my soul hurts thats all i can say.

me too

hubb wrote:I'm not talking about the musics own quality despite it CLEARLY being some of his worst bits ( I love all of it, dont get me wrong), but the collector aspect which I find highly offensive and wrong. It's bordering on merchandise.

Analord is by far some of his best. It and Druqs are my favorites. It's just really well written, it sounds great too. I don't see why their needs to be a risk. It's just got some of the best melodic content he's written and I love the sounds of all the hardware he owns. Some of which doesn't get heard many other places

The collector aspect thing is bullshit too.It was a series of vinyl Eps. So what loads of labels do that? It's all available digitally now too. In fact there were tracks made for it not on the vinyl added to the digital releases too. So it's easy as hell to get.

Isn't the digital just chosen lords?

There was the chosen lords cd but if you go on the rephlex site you can buy all of them plus more unreleased tracks as downloads too.

oh really? how could i miss that

It's not fair having me go through all those points again.
I don't think you read it properly wolf.

I don't see why their needs to be a risk.

Like this, I simply don't believe you even see it that way.

I did I think you're just being pretentious. It's better than most of his early stuff. Also you're "Just for collectors thing" still isn't true.

Just look http://www.rephlex.com/artists/view/AFX

I don't get how people could not rate this stuff

the masterpiece of electronic music imo

wolf89 wrote:I did I think you're just being pretentious. It's better than most of his early stuff. Also you're "Just for collectors thing" still isn't true.

Just look http://www.rephlex.com/artists/view/AFX

It's not available in the same format- it's aimed at geeks. No discussion there.

The being pretentious part, no doubt I'm a proponent of that sometimes, proud of it.

Imo the risks as I've put it previously, was basicly the inspiration behind most of the music we listen to, if that elevates it or not in an objective context where we discard history, is up to the individual or down to taste, to decide. So it's fair to feel either way, that's not the issue. The issue is how it was presented and on what basis, they decided to aim an aphex twin (masterpiece) at the people that already had that oppinion, that's a sign of a lesser product imo.
You could argue ofcourse that it was a comment on only releasing albums, I see it as part cash in.

The tuss stuff was also as good imo, despite all the decoy biz.