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kidshuffle wrote:Without fear there is no confidence. Fear only dictates your life as much as you let it.

absolutely. but its a constant struggle.

OGLemon wrote:fear = increased chance of survival

yea was referring to shame, to clarify

Fear makes you think you can live longer, cos as long as you steer clear from what you're afraid of you'll be fine

wierd how much fear is manufactured nowdays:
instead of man-eating animals we have extreme sports,
feudal lord's demands v believing politician's lies,
freezing to death for lack of clothing v living up to consumerist expectations

is our natural inclination to seek fear?

Makes you think about how powerful emotions are in human societies. Most actions, if not all, deal with human emotions.

Thats more for the more developed parts of the world i'd say, where people are increasingly made aware of how they're running out of time. A tribesman would be much more likely to indulge in more emotionless action during the hours we spend on social networking, effectively playing with each other's emotions

esfandyar wrote:yeah shame is another one of the universal emotions found in all cultures around the world. some animals display it as well, like dogs for instance.

Is shame really an emotion?
If it is, then is fear really an emotion? (I think it was mentioned as such earlier).

Tbh, I think fear is more of a sense. That being said, I'm still put off by the idea that shame is an emotion. Seems more like an object of fear.

jesslem wrote:

esfandyar wrote:yeah shame is another one of the universal emotions found in all cultures around the world. some animals display it as well, like dogs for instance.

Is shame really an emotion?
If it is, then is fear really an emotion? (I think it was mentioned as such earlier).

Tbh, I think fear is more of a sense. That being said, I'm still put off by the idea that shame is an emotion. Seems more like an object of fear.

shame and fear are both definitely emotions. its sometimes tough to think of them as as such because it feels like we are simplifying them as only emotions, when they are part of so many things, physiologically too.

I think of emotions coming more from intuition, kind of like immediate cognitive responses to external stimuli, but shame and fear seem far more calculated than that; they both invoke emotion, but, imo, they aren't necessarily emotions themselves.

I walked past a labour union's protest recently.

Who lived through this:



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And maybe more topically:

When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours, do not be afraid of them, because the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt, will be with you.

Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.

my parents fear that ill kill them because they took my nife and hid it in there room and i found it and play with it.

jesslem wrote:I think the significance comes from the feeling of guilt associated with it, as well as the implications it poses to human animals.

Just realized that girl in your avatar is prolly norwegian cos the milk shes receiving is

Harkat wrote:

jesslem wrote:I think the significance comes from the feeling of guilt associated with it, as well as the implications it poses to human animals.

Just realized that girl in your avatar is prolly norwegian cos the milk shes receiving is

If it was up to me, she would receive some Dutch milk.