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and techno is different because there isn't any drums

shackleton is the man doing lives

Hubb, do you think the dance music tradition of DJ-able tunes (and thus the cycle of djing over "live" sets > more DJ-able tunes with predictable structure) is a detriment?

I like it for what it is really. Even just listening on headphones all good dance music makes sense in how it builds. I don't really see it as a limitation of the genre.

hubb wrote:and techno is different because there isn't any drums

I sure as hell have never heard a techno track with drums in it.

Moresounds does a pretty mean dub-wise mixing desk style set.

Bass Clef

hubb wrote:

RKM wrote:does anyone else fully not get live sets

i dont get more hyped by seeing a guy furiously stab buttons on a light up box than i do hearing a well thought out and mixed dj set

Definitely not. Live music is pretty bad in this era. But it can be done.

please tell me you're just talking about electronic music

I don't care as long as it sounds good

test recordings wrote:Bass Clef

Yeah he is a brilliant musician he always show with lots of analog crazy machines and percusion instrument, would give one testicle to see him live.
Also, ekoplekz!!

Who's the artist who has a mask with a controllable penis on the front of it, I'm sure he'd be more known for his live performances (he has some custom built mic /controller)

GreenWaffle wrote:Who's the artist who has a mask with a controllable penis on the front of it, I'm sure he'd be more known for his live performances (he has some custom built mic /controller)

sonika?

Ankelpants

Harkat wrote:Hubb, do you think the dance music tradition of DJ-able tunes (and thus the cycle of djing over "live" sets > more DJ-able tunes with predictable structure) is a detriment?

I like it for what it is really. Even just listening on headphones all good dance music makes sense in how it builds. I don't really see it as a limitation of the genre.

Yeah that is still a strong point of these genres but...
I think producers that worry wether an intro is mixable on account of someone elses ability to listen to it and understand it, is a bad idea in principle.

kidshuffle wrote:

hubb wrote:

RKM wrote:does anyone else fully not get live sets

i dont get more hyped by seeing a guy furiously stab buttons on a light up box than i do hearing a well thought out and mixed dj set

Definitely not. Live music is pretty bad in this era. But it can be done.

please tell me you're just talking about electronic music

No, I'm talking about live stuff. I'm sure you would agree that Jack White isn't Jimi Hendrix or that Jamie Cullum isn't Miles Davis... or that Pink who isn't Nina Simone is still a live act.

Like with proper singers that have had an impact on how we sing, have all been stuck inside a church practising for a decade before they would get to record etc..
People like Adele or Amy Winehouse were common talents.
And a drummer and a bass player just doesn't get to play along side each other for 20 years now.

DiegoSapiens wrote:Ankelpants

Yeah that's it

hubb wrote:

kidshuffle wrote:

hubb wrote:

RKM wrote:does anyone else fully not get live sets

i dont get more hyped by seeing a guy furiously stab buttons on a light up box than i do hearing a well thought out and mixed dj set

Definitely not. Live music is pretty bad in this era. But it can be done.

please tell me you're just talking about electronic music

No, I'm talking about live stuff. I'm sure you would agree that Jack White isn't Jimi Hendrix or that Jamie Cullum isn't Miles Davis... or that Pink who isn't Nina Simone is still a live act.

Like with proper singers that have had an impact on how we sing, have all been stuck inside a church practising for a decade before they would get to record etc..
People like Adele or Amy Winehouse were common talents.
And a drummer and a bass player just doesn't get to play along side each other for 20 years now.

huuuh..?....black flags live experience is pretty famous and i dont think it took a lot of careful planning and practice

Skrillex

RKM wrote:

hubb wrote:

kidshuffle wrote:

hubb wrote:

RKM wrote:does anyone else fully not get live sets

i dont get more hyped by seeing a guy furiously stab buttons on a light up box than i do hearing a well thought out and mixed dj set

Definitely not. Live music is pretty bad in this era. But it can be done.

please tell me you're just talking about electronic music

No, I'm talking about live stuff. I'm sure you would agree that Jack White isn't Jimi Hendrix or that Jamie Cullum isn't Miles Davis... or that Pink who isn't Nina Simone is still a live act.

Like with proper singers that have had an impact on how we sing, have all been stuck inside a church practising for a decade before they would get to record etc..
People like Adele or Amy Winehouse were common talents.
And a drummer and a bass player just doesn't get to play along side each other for 20 years now.

huuuh..?....black flags live experience is pretty famous and i dont think it took a lot of careful planning and practice

I don't get what either of you are saying

White isn't Hendrix, but I like him way better than Hendrix. Is live music bad nowadays? I don't follow.

worse... than before


The argument with someone like black flag is a bad example because they've existed for that long a time and tbh punk is almost another discussion because it's always 'best' live or it's just recorded in a live setting, (maybe im wrong ?).
There's nothing lost in the translation from recording to live setting.
There's not something they do in the studio that they couldn't do live, not that it's studio records that have half-ruined rock music by itself, though I'm sure a lot of people think that.

But having said that, a lot of what is interesting (im not going to say good) about punk could definitely be applied to an electronic music performance (urrghh)..more than it is right now.

but I like him way better than Hendrix

I'm sure you can get a pill for something like this in the future.