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I start with what ever sound intrigues me... so it could be a hit.. a snare... or a kick... or a atmos... anything that sparks the flow. No rules here.

Just food for thought, starting with rules can be very fruitful.

Restrictions > rules

"You can't do this" fosters more creativity in finding alternate solutions and methodologies than "you must do this".

@wub @starting w drums....couldnt agree more...get everything sound funky w/o the drums first.

Sometimes I try to "hear" the song before I start making it. Like I think to myself "if I were about to listen to a track right now, what would I want to hear?" Then I try to create it. I'm surprised with how often I get good results from this approach (I mean, it fails a lot as well, but I still think it's a useful way to think about beginning to create a track).

As far as what element to start with, I say just start with whatever you want. You gotta fill up the track with everything eventually so whatever you're most motivated to work on should be what you start with IMO. Some people are more motivated by having great percussion, whereas for others it's harmonies and chords and stuff. Personally I can't really get a track going without having some idea of the chord progression or tonal areas first, so I usually start by playing some melody on piano. But if you're digging a tight rhythm to start off, then make that! Like pretty much everyone has said so far, avoid strict adherence to rules when creative motivation is at stake.

Add9 wrote:Sometimes I try to "hear" the song before I start making it. Like I think to myself "if I were about to listen to a track right now, what would I want to hear?" Then I try to create it. I'm surprised with how often I get good results from this approach (I mean, it fails a lot as well, but I still think it's a useful way to think about beginning to create a track).

As far as what element to start with, I say just start with whatever you want. You gotta fill up the track with everything eventually so whatever you're most motivated to work on should be what you start with IMO. Some people are more motivated by having great percussion, whereas for others it's harmonies and chords and stuff. Personally I can't really get a track going without having some idea of the chord progression or tonal areas first, so I usually start by playing some melody on piano. But if you're digging a tight rhythm to start off, then make that! Like pretty much everyone has said so far, avoid strict adherence to rules when creative motivation is at stake.

I've seen you post good advice on here, where can we hear your music? just curious

cyclopian wrote:
I've seen you post good advice on here, where can we hear your music? just curious

Thanks, it's funny you mention that, I just took my sound cloud link out of my signature the other day because I no longer wanted people to judge me by it

But this is it: https://soundcloud.com/the-neon-feast (I've made lots of stuff more recent than this but haven't put anything up on SC in a while).

I'm not really that proud of anything on there anymore, you can easily tell I went through a "brostep" phase, a "try to sound like Au5" phase, a "try to sound like Koan Sound" phase etc... I'm still searching for my own sound tbh but I imagine that takes a lot of time. I only have 2 years of production experience so far, and they say you need at least 5-10 before you can really know what you're doing.

I think it is all good to go through those phases. You learn a skill set, and move on.

But yeah, at a certain point you're going to have to find a way of working that you like, and employ those skills.

Post up your newer stuff, or create a new account, whatever if you feel like you need a clean break.

I really like listening to peoples tunes in their sigs. My stream is a little overwhelming, especially with this reposting shit. Fucking benny freaking froobs fills my shit up with pages of tunes. So I miss a lot, from people I really want to hear from.

I like to hear what people are working on, and a sig is a great way to keep up to speed.