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Riddles wrote:fair play, i'll watch drive tonight and get back to you.

Lights off, sound up, phone off. It's a total immersion film you need to experience.

Honestly the best film I've ever seen. Wub, you're talking about an immersion experience, try this

^an immersion experience in the IMAX in 3D yes, in the house I doubt it would be that great. Absolutely amazing in the IMAX though.

lol no. It works as a surviving in space film very well and also a "how did they do this?" technology show off film but the attempt to bring in the emotional side of things with the character is fucking insanely cheesy trying too hard cornball Hollywood rubbish. Only thing that would have redeemed her cheesy backstory parts would be if she'd drowned upon reentry

Kochari wrote:Gravity

Honestly the best film I've ever seen. Wub, you're talking about an immersion experience, try this

Limited plot, shallow script. Pretty to look at but too much style and far too little substance.

What was the cultural impact of Drive?

Moon > Gravity

OGLemon wrote:What was the cultural impact of Drive?

Kick started the neo-noir market, introduced Gosling to the wider audience in terms of his acting talent (Half Nelson was great but was an indie film and had limited exposure).

wub wrote:Limited plot, shallow script. Pretty to look at but too much style and far too little substance.

Riddles wrote:Moon > Gravity

Riddles wrote:Moon > Gravity

Yes, this.

OGLemon wrote:Drive's not even my favorite movie with Ryan Gosling, Half Nelson is much better.

My top two will probably be Amour and A Bittersweet Life. I'd put Oldboy or Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring on there, but they were made in 2003.

Yes, this.

Finding it hard to decide on just two, but I'll take:



and



I'll probably change my mind by tomorrow.

Edit: I changed my mind already. Sorry Wes.

Riddles wrote:Moon > Gravity

No doubt about it. Don't get me wrong when I seen Gravity in the IMAX I was absolutely stunned by it and it's still amazing as a spectacle and for that I'd give it an 8/10, but as a piece of fiction it's pretty poor, the whole backstory to the characters that was just thrown in last second was awful.

Moon is a far far better piece of fiction, although it stresses me out sometimes

Liam92 wrote:Moon is a far far better piece of fiction, although it stresses me out sometimes

The last scene (well, maybe not the last, it's been a little while...)

[+] Spoiler

When he has to effectively bury himself

is one of the greatest bits of cinema ever.

garethom wrote:

wub wrote:Limited plot, shallow script. Pretty to look at but too much style and far too little substance.

I understand the comparison you're trying to make, but you're way off kilter. Drive is a complete movie. Plot, defined characters, no need for protracted back stories to try and establish motives.

Gravity is a thin crispy shell created to wrap around some fancy special effects.

magma wrote:

Liam92 wrote:Moon is a far far better piece of fiction, although it stresses me out sometimes

The last scene (well, maybe not the last, it's been a little while...)

[+] Spoiler

When he has to effectively bury himself

is one of the greatest bits of cinema ever.

[+] Spoiler

The scene where he phones his daughter

Not to mention how good the Moon soundtrack is.

The Lives Of Others, Borat

Completely fair choices imo.
Amazing films.

shutter island, the hunt

two of the worst films I've ever seen.

It's interesting what we like no doubt... I'd highly recommend
'festen' if you liked the hunt.

I would say that Enter the void, Irreversible (?), R, Ghost in the shell 2 (?), Old boy, Chugeogja, The yellow sea, Windy city heat (2003), The one with Ronaldinho chasing a puma in the jungle that Mel Gibson directed, are up there. Oh and I really liked that the Cohen brothers made a serious music film today..

Trier was much better the decade before imo, not that it's bad just not a product of genious like previously imo.

saw Gravity at the IMAX. sick pictures and all, but the film is utter garbage. Sandra Bullocks' is BY FAR the worst female acting I have ever paid for, the ending shots are embarrassingly bad and every dialogue was amongst the flattest I've ever witnessed on screen. what a shit movie.

Moon is a subpar rip off of Solyaris

And it is still highly recommendable, but that speaks more of how amazing solyaris is.

Sam Rockwell is great.

Solaris is a cracking film.

However, 2002 so ineligible for the purposes of this thread.

Gravity shouldn't even be in the discussion. I barely made it to the end - even worse award fodder than 12 Years A Slave.

Drive does get bonus points for being an "action movie" that kept me watching til the end... doesn't happen very often. IIRC, I think I preferred Place Beyond The Pines though... saw them both on the same weekend, I think.

hubb: stop bringing Tarkovsky in. or any reference of "films before" - because else, we can just scrap the whole discussion here.

Gravity is a shitty version of 2001.