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Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:51 pm
by mks
fragments wrote:There is some great 90's gear out there for peanuts.
This is how I pretty much built my studio. As I mentioned in the budget gear thread, I've been working with this concept I call technological detritus. For instance, the Akai S5000 sampler that I bought in the late '90's was the single most expensive piece of electronic gear that I have purchased coming in at $2000. Now that thing is only worth about $300 or so.

I can't even imagine how much money I've sunk into gear, but it's what I do so I'm cool with it. And it wasn't all at once, I built it over a period of YEARS.

Here was my studio in Seattle a few years ago:

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Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:57 pm
by _Agu_
:o ^That looks wicked

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:24 pm
by Ema_geodiV
mks wrote:
fragments wrote:There is some great 90's gear out there for peanuts.
This is how I pretty much built my studio. As I mentioned in the budget gear thread, I've been working with this concept I call technological detritus. For instance, the Akai S5000 sampler that I bought in the late '90's was the single most expensive piece of electronic gear that I have purchased coming in at $2000. Now that thing is only worth about $300 or so.

I can't even imagine how much money I've sunk into gear, but it's what I do so I'm cool with it. And it wasn't all at once, I built it over a period of YEARS.

Here was my studio in Seattle a few years ago:

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dear Santa..... :(

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:46 pm
by mks
Ema, from what I can tell, you are in your first few months of producing.

Like I said, this took years to build. This is what the long game looks like. Dedication, perseverance and figuring out how to put shit together.

When I started, it wasn't an easy task to produce. You couldn't just get some cheap laptop and some pirated software and get started.

I had to search out and acquire a very basic setup and I worked with that for years. Once I was able to afford a decent sampler, things moved quickly as I had already spent years practicing on a very limited setup.
mks wrote:technological detritus
I'm trying to give you clues here.

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:55 pm
by mks
Like seriously, think outside of the box...

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:10 am
by fragments
mks wrote:Ema, from what I can tell, you are in your first few months of producing.

Like I said, this took years to build. This is what the long game looks like. Dedication, perseverance and figuring out how to put shit together.

When I started, it wasn't an easy task to produce. You couldn't just get some cheap laptop and some pirated software and get started.

I had to search out and acquire a very basic setup and I worked with that for years. Once I was able to afford a decent sampler, things moved quickly as I had already spent years practicing on a very limited setup.
mks wrote:technological detritus
I'm trying to give you clues here.
Guru level device here : )

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:18 am
by mks
fragments wrote:Guru level device here : )
Advice?? Device works too though. :6:

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:56 am
by Ema_geodiV
mks wrote:Ema, from what I can tell, you are in your first few months of producing.

Like I said, this took years to build. This is what the long game looks like. Dedication, perseverance and figuring out how to put shit together.

When I started, it wasn't an easy task to produce. You couldn't just get some cheap laptop and some pirated software and get started.

I had to search out and acquire a very basic setup and I worked with that for years. Once I was able to afford a decent sampler, things moved quickly as I had already spent years practicing on a very limited setup.
mks wrote:technological detritus
I'm trying to give you clues here.


It's been a year now actually :D thanks for sharing that to me :) :h: I'm just actually jealous and I hope someday I can achieve something like that too.... not the whole equipment itself but that doing what you love in life thingy :mrgreen:

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:02 am
by fragments
mks wrote:
fragments wrote:Guru level device here : )
Advice?? Device works too though. :6:
Which is the guru level device though?! :n:

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:16 am
by legend4ry
Thats a great home studio MKS!


And oh look Production.

We've actually had a discussion .

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:21 am
by fragments
legend4ry wrote:Thats a great home studio MKS!


And oh look Production.

We've actually had a discussion .
Don't jinx it :mrgreen:

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:27 am
by nowaysj
hubb wrote:I think my monitors are decent enough just that they're a knock off brand and probably not something that is sold globally and therefore impossible to recommend - is all.

But yeah I think room treatment is worth thinking about if I had the p.
Based on things you've said, and the sound of everything I've heard from you, I think your monitoring is too bright, or you are extremely sensitive to high frequency. I am NO mixmaster, don't even really even get to that stage of song making :oops: I do working mixing, but not sweetening mixing, I've got shit monitors, and even shittier acoustics, my ears are so fucked I can't even begin to tell you, my hearing is getting worse by the week... But still. Your mixes really piss me off. I really enjoy your music, your mixes always frustrate me. And to further clarify, I'm not like a mix person, f all that business, that usually sounds like snobbery to me, and like there is an ideal mix. F that. I honestly think you're hearing something I'm not hearing though.

Like next project before you get started, name the project nwj is a dick, and put a quality eq on the master with a high shelf, and pull down like 4db around 1.5k or 2k and up. Just make a track like that. Work in that environment. Do the whole project, mix it, master it, then turn off that extra nwj is a dick eq, then render that. I really wanna hear that. Really bad.

My apologies. (I should just sig that)

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:16 am
by Ema_geodiV
uhm fragments, What does your set up looks like? :D you can just describe it I'm just curious :lol:

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:48 am
by hubb
Well yes and I've said so a couple of times :lol: I hate high freqs and have an ear injury :6: ...

:w:

taken into consideration ofcourse !

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:15 pm
by AxeD
legend4ry wrote:Thats a great home studio MKS!


And oh look Production.

We've actually had a discussion .
Hah wub! Put that in your trunk and shut it!
Balloons are falling from my ceiling right now.

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:51 pm
by fragments
Ema_geodiV wrote:uhm fragments, What does your set up looks like? :D you can just describe it I'm just curious :lol:
In the interest of keeping things on topic...I won't force these pix and gear list on anyone...

Pictures:
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Recent pictures of my new setup. Still getting things sorted in these pictures. We ditched the guest bed and I took over most of the spare bedroom. I <3 woman for putting up with my crazy music shit...

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Hardware list:
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Synths/Samplers/Sequencing:
Arturia MicroBrute
Korg Volca Keys
MeeBlip Anode
E-Mu Proteus One
E-Mu ESI 32 Sampler
Korg ES-1
Korg ER-1
Boss SP 202
Clavia Nord Drum MKI
M-Audio Trigger Finger Pro (for sequencing)

Signal Processing:
FMC Really Nice Compressor
Joe Meek MC2
Joyo Analog Delay Pedal
Rogue Analog Delay Pedal
Zoom CDR Multi Stomp
OTO Biscuit
Korg Kaoss Pad 3
Electrix Filter Factory
Electro Harmonix 256 Vocoder Pedal

Other:
SoundCraft EPM8 Mixer
Behringer PX3000 Patch Bay
Some budget Numark DJ monitors

Didn't list the bits I use for ITB stuff.

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:36 pm
by hubb
Fragments

I would move both sets of monitors at least a foot away from the wall there if I was you.

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Maybe not even that, just the length of the monitor standing up away from the wall

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:23 pm
by Mad_EP
I figure over the 14 years that I did electronic / hiphop / sound design....


I probably spent about £10,000 on a desktop and 2 laptops + midi controllers + software + extra bits, etc....

I certainly have earned much more than that sum in the same amount of time from those endeavors - and that isn't even including the fact that I also earned dough from graphic/web design using the same computers.... so even if that wasn't worth it (which obviously it was), I still would have needed a computer during those years anyway... so really, it all paid for itself...

...BUT

1) I didn't buy it all at once. I started while in school and using the school's gear.... and many of those tracks wound up on records that I received upfront advances on.

2) Advances... yeah, I don't even know if those exist in underground records any more.. I think I was on the tail end. Getting a big chunk of change before the record was even out was really nice.


I've pretty much retired from beats... so I don't think I would invest much more seeing that I can do almost anything I want to do should the mood strike.... That said, I still am a full-time musician. If I had disposable income that wasn't being siphoned off to sheet music, repairs to my cello, or just buying records all the time... I would probably get into collecting gear.... but for me, it just isn't my thing.

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:30 pm
by fragments
hubb wrote:Fragments

I would move both sets of monitors at least a foot away from the wall there if I was you.

edit
Maybe not even that, just the length of the monitor standing up away from the wall

Thanks. Yea. I know its not ideal. I'll see if I can get away with taking up a bit more space...to move the monitors away from the wall I'll have to move everything that much further : )

Re: How much to invest in your set up.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:44 pm
by Ema_geodiV
fragments wrote:
Ema_geodiV wrote:uhm fragments, What does your set up looks like? :D you can just describe it I'm just curious :lol:
In the interest of keeping things on topic...I won't force these pix and gear list on anyone...

Pictures:
[+] Spoiler
Recent pictures of my new setup. Still getting things sorted in these pictures. We ditched the guest bed and I took over most of the spare bedroom. I <3 woman for putting up with my crazy music shit...

Image
Image
Image
Hardware list:
[+] Spoiler
Synths/Samplers/Sequencing:
Arturia MicroBrute
Korg Volca Keys
MeeBlip Anode
E-Mu Proteus One
E-Mu ESI 32 Sampler
Korg ES-1
Korg ER-1
Boss SP 202
Clavia Nord Drum MKI
M-Audio Trigger Finger Pro (for sequencing)

Signal Processing:
FMC Really Nice Compressor
Joe Meek MC2
Joyo Analog Delay Pedal
Rogue Analog Delay Pedal
Zoom CDR Multi Stomp
OTO Biscuit
Korg Kaoss Pad 3
Electrix Filter Factory
Electro Harmonix 256 Vocoder Pedal

Other:
SoundCraft EPM8 Mixer
Behringer PX3000 Patch Bay
Some budget Numark DJ monitors

Didn't list the bits I use for ITB stuff.
That looks nice as well! :mrgreen:


My set up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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