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nousd wrote:ah, actually you could with a little practice
like, say, rather than being scared at the top of a cliff
you can become conscious in your dream & jump off

so in your case, you could brutally murder your folks
& presumably resolve a lot of your pent up resentment
then start over with your new (real) folks

please don't get this suggestion confused sigs,
because they don't put killers in gaol with Asian chicks
(unless you do it in Bali)

Imo, that's bullshit and fundamentally undermines the notion of dreaming. If you're aware of the fact that you can jump off and not die because the 'reality' you experience wouldn't impose the same restrictions as those of the waking reality, then you aren't submitting to the dream's reality and therefore aren't actually dreaming, but imagining.

if i cant get a job ill move to my dads. hes pretty chill

I bet he'd be disappointed to see his increasingly middle aged son mooching off him.

he knows my mom and doesnt want me staying here

It's probably harder to find a good falafel sandwich in Japan.

ive got to learn japanese or korean. ive had a dream once that i was going to learn korean i think it was

go to North Korea and get blazed with the supreme leader. that would be pretty sick.

sigbowls wrote:if i cant get a job ill move to my dads. hes pretty chill

If you can't get a job, move in under an underpass. It's pretty chill.

theres a lot of koreans here. i have a driend that speaks korean and he would always talk to all the other koreans that were speaking it

nowaysj wrote:

sigbowls wrote:if i cant get a job ill move to my dads. hes pretty chill

If you can't get a job, move in under an underpass. It's pretty chill.

ya ill move to cali and talk about blazing it all the time to you

rickyarbino wrote:

nousd wrote:ah, actually you could with a little practice
like, say, rather than being scared at the top of a cliff
you can become conscious in your dream & jump off

Imo, that's bullshit and fundamentally undermines the notion of dreaming. If you're aware of the fact that you can jump off and not die because the 'reality' you experience wouldn't impose the same restrictions as those of the waking reality, then you aren't submitting to the dream's reality and therefore aren't actually dreaming, but imagining.

maybe but it feels like I'm still dreaming,
even though I'm aware of my conscious participation
It doesn't seem to hinder the integration of experiences into the psychological process...

I can't see what submitting to a "dream's reality" has to do with the dream being effective.
Have you never had a dream wherein external realities (such as sounds or physical contact) have affected the content of the dream?
Dreams seem to be able to adapt to all sorts of inputs and influences, including, imo, our conscious involvement.

It hinders in sense that you aren't psychologically processing a dream you aren't having.

I'm not sure what your second paragraph is getting at. My view is that the external realities belong to something other than the dream and that in acknowledging them over those of the dream we effectively emerge from the dream, to the waking state. To me, that would imply that the things you 'see', 'hear', or otherwise 'sense' in a dream are what it's contents consist of. In acknowledging these realities as false and being able to overcome the fear imposed by them we've actually stopped dreaming haven't we? It doesn't make sense to suggest that someone could actually improve their dream experiences by doing something which forces them to abstain from dreaming.

we disagree as to what constitutes the dream

would you consider injecting yourself into your dreams & see what I'm contending?
it's not that difficult to do
like programming yourself to wake up at 5am,
remarkably effective
matter of pre-arranging to become self-conscious during dream sleep

sceptical? try it

I know what you're talking about, lucid dreaming. I'm of the view that it isn't actually dreaming, but imagination. Can't dream unless you let yourself go.

sigbowls wrote:

nowaysj wrote:

sigbowls wrote:if i cant get a job ill move to my dads. hes pretty chill

If you can't get a job, move in under an underpass. It's pretty chill.

ya ill move to cali and talk about blazing it all the time to you

Japanese is not that hard to learn imo

for me it might be hard.

sig are you a weeaboo?

Ema_geodiV wrote:

sigbowls wrote:

nowaysj wrote:

sigbowls wrote:if i cant get a job ill move to my dads. hes pretty chill

If you can't get a job, move in under an underpass. It's pretty chill.

ya ill move to cali and talk about blazing it all the time to you

Japanese is not that hard to learn imo

one of that hardest languages to learn for a native English speaker imo

sixs wrote:sig are you a weeaboo?

ya

OGLemon wrote: one of that hardest languages to learn for a native English speaker imo

I agree with ya. I'm a native English speaker (I'm also half Japanese :3) and I can speak the language not fluent enough but learning it was not that hard compare to learning German and Italian >.< it is hard to learn and comprehend but I don't think it's "that" hard to learn like what other people think of it.