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Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:04 am
by upstateface
Necro much???
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:47 am
by nowaysj
Hahaha.
Since this is here.
Is there any problem with monoizing a waveform? I mean there is different content on the left and right channel. Does it just average the channels, or just drop one channel?
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:52 am
by upstateface
nowaysj wrote:Hahaha.
Since this is here.
Is there any problem with monoizing a waveform? I mean there is different content on the left and right channel. Does it just average the channels, or just drop one channel?
It averages both channels.
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:59 am
by samkablaam
upstateface wrote:nowaysj wrote:Hahaha.
Since this is here.
Is there any problem with monoizing a waveform? I mean there is different content on the left and right channel. Does it just average the channels, or just drop one channel?
It averages both channels.
it
adds both channels
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:20 am
by Depone
samkablaam wrote:upstateface wrote:nowaysj wrote:Hahaha.
Since this is here.
Is there any problem with monoizing a waveform? I mean there is different content on the left and right channel. Does it just average the channels, or just drop one channel?
It averages both channels.
it
adds both channels
Well... Kinda it sums them together. For example, you have +5 db on either side of the stereo track, you dont get +10 when you sum to mono. Why is this?

Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:17 am
by samkablaam
it adds them together, but will change the sum so that it doesnt double in level.
in analogue desks there would have been an amp after the pan stage whos gain was connected to the pan pot, so that in the middle, the gain was 3 dB less than if it was fully left or right. although that figure varied across different manufacturers.
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:26 am
by nowaysj
samkablaam wrote:it adds them together, but will change the sum so that it doesnt double in level.
by dividing by 2?

Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:48 am
by samkablaam
nowaysj wrote:samkablaam wrote:it adds them together, but will change the sum so that it doesnt double in level.
by dividing by 2?

or root 2
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:50 am
by Pedro Sánchez
Depone wrote:There are many stereo tools out there, i myself use one for my 'mastering'.
http://www.brainworx-music.de/en/plugins/bx_solo
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:53 am
by Genevieve
Hhahahaha, I read that as 'making mass Bono'.
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:20 pm
by HicksPhonix
Add new mono channel => route out of sub to that channel => done.
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:35 pm
by Ongelegen
For Reason users this is extremely easy. For those who don't know, by unhooking the right output wire the signal will become mono.
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:01 pm
by staticcast
nowaysj wrote:samkablaam wrote:it adds them together, but will change the sum so that it doesnt double in level.
by dividing by 2?

Lol, yup.
It's easy to forget in some DAWs - namely those that have "mono" and "stereo" channels - but a stereo channel with the same signal in the left and right is just as mono as a mono channel. Everything's gonna be bounced down to 2 channels anyway.
The vast majority of synths will default to a mono preset - unless you're putting some stereo widening FX on there (chorus, reverb, phaser etc), there's absolutely no reason to bounce, convert to mono and re-import. (Apart from saving CPU I guess, but that's arguable in many cases since there's no guarantee that the "mono" version of a VST won't just be processing in stereo with one of the channels blank...)
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:09 pm
by 710
This might sound stupid, but what's the benefit of making the bass mono? Just to give it a different feel?
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:12 pm
by staticcast
710 wrote:This might sound stupid, but what's the benefit of making the bass mono? Just to give it a different feel?
- Club soundsystems usually run subs in mono
- You can't cut stereo sub content to vinyl
- You lose a lot of headroom (or perceived volume given a fixed headroom) by panning something with such a big amplitude-to-perceived-loudness ratio, like sub bass
Re: making bass mono
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:57 pm
by Depone
See the 'Zero width below'
Cause you dont want everything mono with bass, just the sub bass in a full range bass