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BETAMAXNOMATES wrote:Hip-hop in general, I'm afraid. Just seems to be a lack of innovation/real talent on either side of the Atlantic.

not to sure about this??.....

id like to see jungle make a comeback?.

I was feeling a lot of indie about a year 2 years ago..but now, i hate nearly every song thats released...(it may be though that im forced to listen 2 those sorts of tunes a fricking work all hours of the day, while the mothers tnuc of a co-worker listens for her name on pay your bills)

Maybe I was a bit harsh. Just haven't heard anything in the past while that really 'surprised' me. American Gangster was alright, the new Wu-Tang and Ghostface albums were disappointing, and - as technically skilled as he is - Lil' Wayne just doesn't do it for me.
If you could recommend anything though I'd be happy to take a listen!

Fell in love with Hip Hop back in 86 but nowadays I rarely listen to it

Has just got to the point where it all sounds tired and cliched, I've heard it all before in terms of lyrical content, ideas and production

The market is oversaturated and there is no real innovation and too many non-standout soundalikes

Nothing really moves me anymore and to be honest I find a lot of the current output pretty soulless

Also my age I am lot more cynical, don't want to be preached at or hear someone constantly talking about how great they are in every verse. I'm not really wowed either at how dope your metaphors and wordplay are either. Rappers never want to grow up either and speak honestly

You've got guys in their thirties still carrying on like irresponsible teenagers

Anyway, enough of the rant. Starting to sound like someone's parent

There will always be artists who I will continue to check for

De La Soul for example who still put out some amazing music which I can relate to

MF Doom is consistently interesting

I've not given up Hip Hop altogether, it's just that there's too much good music out there new and old waiting for me to discover. I can't just restrict myself to the one genre

In my opinion 'Fishscale' by Ghostface is good as any of the solo Wu-Tang albums. Not that recent tho (2006)

yea ive completely given up on UK hip hop at the moment, although ill still give another roots manuva solo a chance. It just went to shit after they said their little esoteric/bleak piece (taskforce and jehst) or the semi-conscious harman stuff like klashnekoff. Still a few old bits that are ok but ive pretty much moved over to listening to grime instead and its far more refreshing, although thats got its problems as well.

Ill still give a bunch of the US guys a chance though, perhaps cos i havent grown out of the NYC blueprint yet, but AZ has been dropping good solos the last few years, and Sean Price put out two pretty good albums since 2005, so theres still bits about if you dont mind people rapping about pushing crack/ gunning people down.

BETAMAXNOMATES wrote:Maybe I was a bit harsh. Just haven't heard anything in the past while that really 'surprised' me. American Gangster was alright, the new Wu-Tang and Ghostface albums were disappointing, and - as technically skilled as he is - Lil' Wayne just doesn't do it for me.
If you could recommend anything though I'd be happy to take a listen!

i recommend a lot of memphis bleaks new stuff, guys killing it at the mo in my opinion...i know u mentioned you dont really go for little wayne, but the carter is way 222 much, and the greatest rapper alive part 5 was smoking mate!!, obie trice has got a new mixtape out which aint bad...some nice tracks floating on their, the most underrated i think its called..

Cool Kids are quite good. Sa-Ra and Rustie too if they count as hip hop. Lot of it is pretty boring these days tho

deamonds wrote: i recommend a lot of memphis bleaks new stuff, guys killing it at the mo in my opinion...i know u mentioned you dont really go for little wayne, but the carter is way 222 much, and the greatest rapper alive part 5 was smoking mate!!, obie trice has got a new mixtape out which aint bad...some nice tracks floating on their, the most underrated i think its called..

Cheers! Didn't know Bleek had new material out.

House/techno, almost all 4-to-the-floor boom-boom-boom, blech

had just too much (15 years or so, from 1989 till around 2004), can't hardly stand it anymore.

Nowadays I really like African/World music and some (wild and funky) kinds of jazz, oh and chill sounds. And Dubstep became interesting on a dancefloor...

menacetosobriety wrote:Fell in love with Hip Hop back in 86 but nowadays I rarely listen to it

Has just got to the point where it all sounds tired and cliched, I've heard it all before in terms of lyrical content, ideas and production

The market is oversaturated and there is no real innovation and too many non-standout soundalikes

Nothing really moves me anymore and to be honest I find a lot of the current output pretty soulless

check out Buck 65. got a very weird style that you might not like (i love it personally). and he puts a tick in all of those boxes you just mentioned. far from soulless, really interesting production and scratching style and his lyrics are wicked if pretty fucking abstract at times (he has a song about being a centaur amongst other weird ones)

and check out the anticon collective as well if you like that. very strange take on hip hop, often verging on abstract beat poetry. haven't heard much of their newer output as i haven't been paying a lot of attention to hip hop either but i gather it's not as good. definitely worth a look though

nu-skool breaks, self-explainitory im sure.

Thrash/Nu metal: Used to love the Megadeths, Metallicas and Korn of this world, but I then started getting into hip-hop, and suddenly Metal was boring. Still listen to it now and then.

Hip-Hop: For years it's been my love, but then I got into Drum and Bass and now more recently Dubstep. I still love Hip-Hop, but Drum and Bass is my music at the moment.

personally I find breakcore too scattery and offbeat, I know thats the point but just seems like most of the artists have no real rhythmic skills and only make tunes for the sake of being intensely heavy and in your face...I will listen to aphex, flashbulb and squarepusher etc if I want well crafted drill and bass beats therefore to me anybody who listens to it is no different to sumone who likes thrash death metal altho at least you can appreciate the skills and fitness it takes to deliver that sickeningly fast sound with real instruments...to answer the question I would say i'm getting bored of hip hop as it seems it has all been said and done too many times before while the majority of beats are very standard once uve listened to good dubstep or idm...imho the future is glitch hop and dubstep and recommend looking into the glitch mob, in particular ediT - crying over pros if you dont already know..safeways

Hiphop - can't say that I was following the scene in the first place, I just went through a stage of consuming everything I could come across then realised most stuff post 1996 didn't interest me. Rarely listen to it at all now. Grime seems to have replaced it.

DnB - was really into it but just got a bit bored of it likeeveryone else here. But recently I've been picking up on some new sounds (eg. Offkey) and getting interested again

Turntablist stuff - realised that scratching can only go so far

I've kinda gone off gabber, techno, breakcore... all the hard bangin' stuff. Don't get me wrong, I still love to hear it on a dancefloor on a Saturday night but I wouldn't sit about the flat listening to DnB anymore. I think its just too fast these days... Maybe that's not the right word- the tempo's fine, it just sounds too cluttered.

I used to be into into metal and punk when I was a teenager, gone off that- it just lacks depth IMO though I still dig out a few tunes every now & again.

About all I'd listen to these days is dubstep, garage, hiphop (UK & US) and whatever dub/reggae or folky stuff my house mate is playing.

It's all swings and roundabouts tho innit? Gimme six months and i'll be telling you I've gone off dubstep (as if!) and am listening to nothing but metal...

freqone wrote:nu-skool breaks, self-explainitory im sure.

same here, i loved all the vaguely garage-like, bass-driven stuff but it's all gotten a bit too housey for me

badger wrote:and check out the anticon collective as well if you like that. very strange take on hip hop, often verging on abstract beat poetry. haven't heard much of their newer output as i haven't been paying a lot of attention to hip hop either but i gather it's not as good. definitely worth a look though

They now mainly make indie-rock.

i go on and off music all the time.....one week i will rinse IDM on the mp3 player then the next week it might be dubstep or Metal ect...

its a never ending process

I have gone of grime to the max.

i cant stand it.

I remember when my ears first heard the unique sounds of grime,about
11 years old, just started secondary school and i loved it.


From listening to pirate radio station dejavu from the moment my head mooved from my pillow and to the moment i got back from school, and then again before going to sleep, txtin in the station and filled with excitement waiting for them to read it out and when they did, i would record it on my tapes!

Tape after tape i would put in my little radio and record set after set, within breaks scanning up and down the radio to see if there was anything else fresh out there i was missing.


Grime was the music that made me fall in love with music passionately.

The first album i ever had was "Dizzee Rascals" "Boy in da Corner" witch i was stunned with amazement at bein the such age i was, when all i ever used to listen to before was the band S club 7 (between me and you that
one!).


It was all about the beats and givin u that feelin of release, as soon as the mc released their flow onto the unique beat, i was in the zone. Trying to memorise the lyrics and the funny catchphrases they would say, then repeating them around people.

Now i dont want to repeat them around people because i dont feel to say how im going to get this chick and how im gonna rob this boy and reh reh reh.
No thanx.

Grime is a differnt music and even dizzes music has changed in to comercial, what was the tune all about "talkin talkin talkin happy talk!talk about things u like to doooo" dizzee....serious...people now have the right to tell you to FIX UP and LOOK SHARP.


Mc's now days arnt mc's, there kids who see their friend mcin and think ok i can do it.And they try to.The beats are SH**. I dont get that rush i used to get, I dont get excited when i hear a new grime beat or a new grime mc like i used to.
There are some good mc's out there but there are more worst mcs.


THE GRIME SCENE HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN ABOLISHED.