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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:33 pm
by dubway
pollywog wrote:So can I tell DM to come back if he behaves ?
no you can't. (i don't know where did you get that idea from anyway??)
but i can advice you to behave if you dont want to end up like DM

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:39 pm
by mrjiggyfly
O.K. then,

The fight is on 8) :lol:

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Just kidding!!

Everyone just needs to blaze one and kiss and make up 8)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:04 am
by j_j
Jimmeah wrote:frustrations are bad. mmm'kay?

LOOOL

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:52 am
by seckle
MRJIGGYFLY wrote:For six months I don't remeber EVER seeing a thread locked.

You guy's seem a little too eager to be the Dub police :lol: :lol:
this is growing pains. get used to it. this site is bound to see more crap threads as we're over 2 thousand members now.
the two threads that got locked are slander/defamation territory.

hosting companies don't want to risk it, and would think nothing of terminating your hosting over it. if we didn't lock those threads down or moderate them, to an outsider it look's like the moderator's condone it. we've put way too much work into this place to let it go all down the tubes over some stupid threads.

if you think i'm overreacting, here's an example of what can get your website bumped from a hosting provider like go daddy for example:
godaddy.com hosting agreement wrote: You agree not to engage in unacceptable use of any of the Dedicated Services, which includes, without limitation, use of the Dedicated Services to: (i) disseminate or transmit unsolicited messages, chain letters or unsolicited commercial email; (ii) disseminate or transmit any material that, to a reasonable person may be abusive, obscene, pornographic, defamatory, harassing, grossly offensive, vulgar, threatening or malicious; (iii) disseminate or transmit files, graphics, software or other material, data or ....
taken from:
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agr ... Hosting+SA

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:03 am
by whitebait
dubway wrote:
pollywog wrote:So can I tell DM to come back if he behaves ?
no you can't. (i don't know where did you get that idea from anyway??)
but i can advice you to behave if you dont want to end up like DM
my bad :oops:

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:51 am
by joseph-j
This is a bit of a no brainer. The very title of this thread annoys me. Have a fight just for the sake of it?

Then take yer Tennants Super and bugger off back to yer park bench.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:52 am
by boomnoise
seckle wrote:the two threads that got locked are slander/defamation territory.

hosting companies don't want to risk it, and would think nothing of terminating your hosting over it. if we didn't lock those threads down or moderate them, to an outsider it look's like the moderator's condone it. we've put way too much work into this place to let it go all down the tubes over some stupid threads.

if you think i'm overreacting, here's an example of what can get your website bumped from a hosting provider like go daddy for example:
godaddy.com hosting agreement wrote: You agree not to engage in unacceptable use of any of the Dedicated Services, which includes, without limitation, use of the Dedicated Services to: (i) disseminate or transmit unsolicited messages, chain letters or unsolicited commercial email; (ii) disseminate or transmit any material that, to a reasonable person may be abusive, obscene, pornographic, defamatory, harassing, grossly offensive, vulgar, threatening or malicious; (iii) disseminate or transmit files, graphics, software or other material, data or ....
taken from:
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agr ... Hosting+SA
i don't want to go round in cirles but i still think that you are overreacting and that your risk analysis is poor.

would not locking yesterday's threads result in action by godaddy and the like? do you really think hosting companies are looking for violations of this agreement from users posting there opinions on other individuals?

taking this point of view, you could easily lock every thread. i'm also confused why, given your reasoning, that you chose to lock and not delete the thread, leaving the demafation up for all to see.

and really the issue, if there even is one, is libel, not slander and i really wouldn't worry about defamatory remarks on an internet forum! i've never heard of a forum being shut down for such things. more over, what about truth? theres a bit of judge & jury & executioner about the current moderation.

the pressures of living in a risk society, eh.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:58 am
by seckle
i know a graphic design site that was shut down over a slander claim. godaddy.com are one of the bigger hosting companies. they're not connected to this site at all and i was using their agreement as an example. it's funny how bent out of shape some of you get about locking down a thread that's got ZERO to do with dubstep or this scene.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:59 am
by seckle
boomnoise wrote:the pressures of living in a risk society, eh.
that's uncalled for. don't make this more than what it is.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:09 am
by boomnoise
seckle wrote:i know a graphic design site that was shut down over a slander claim. godaddy.com are one of the bigger hosting companies. they're not connected to this site at all and i was using their agreement as an example. it's funny how bent out of shape some of you get about locking down a thread that's got ZERO to do with dubstep or this scene.
fair enough point. just a matter of principle for me.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:11 am
by boomnoise
seckle wrote:
boomnoise wrote:the pressures of living in a risk society, eh.
that's uncalled for. don't make this more than what it is.
trying to lighten things up with bit of sarcasm actually. sorry.

i've said my piece now.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:14 am
by docdoom
To be honest, i think a reasoned debate with both sides representing themselves (re: the slander thread) looks 'better' to someone just arriving on the forum than a thread that has been locked.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:25 am
by dubway
docdoom wrote:To be honest, i think a reasoned debate with both sides representing themselves (re: the slander thread) looks 'better' to someone just arriving on the forum than a thread that has been locked.
hmm.. that's true though..

but what do you suggest? i don't want this forum to be shut down for not reacting on slander.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:37 am
by seckle
docdoom wrote:To be honest, i think a reasoned debate with both sides representing themselves (re: the slander thread) looks 'better' to someone just arriving on the forum than a thread that has been locked.
bad idea. i don't think you guys realise how easy you have it on here.

take a look at the FAQ on doa in regards to slander.
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... did=171313

on doa slander is an immediate ban to your account. most of the bigger forums are the same. no site with a vested interest in staying in operation is going to risk getting closed down over some ridiculous allegation thread. we don't even have an FAQ for the reason that we don't want to moderate with a heavy hand.

more importantly, are people here for music or here for drama?

tennents is good, best on park benches

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:38 am
by metalboxproducts
No brainer? The title was a parody of the discussion,a referance to the previous thread . IT WAS NOT SERIOUS. But, was meant to make you think.
I would suggest that we all go home and read Index on censorship 1972-1997, AN EMBARRASSMENT OF TYRANNIES.


STOP THIS DISSIDENT ACTIVITY, NOW.

Can we please stop? I think the idea is got .
Cease and dissists.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:39 am
by boomnoise
it's libel not slander!

Re: tennents is good, best on park benches

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:40 am
by boomnoise
metalboxproducts wrote:No brainer? The title was a parody of the discussion,a referance to the previous thread . IT WAS NOT SERIOUS. But, was meant to make you think.
I would suggest that we all go home and read Index on censorship 1972-1997, AN EMBARRASSMENT OF TYRANNIES.


STOP THIS DISSIDENT ACTIVITY, NOW.

Can we please stop? I think the idea is got .
Cease and dissists.
yes. all is good. i'm not checking 'off topic' for a while.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:44 am
by seckle
boomnoise wrote:it's libel not slander!
wrong.

my points are made. i'm done .

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:16 pm
by mrjiggyfly
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THREAD LOCKED 8) :lol: 8) :lol: :o

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:17 pm
by robjc
I agree in principle with freedom on this forum, but I cannot see where some of the more contentious threads are going - after you have tossed a few insult back and forward with someone (i.e. is pollywog a racist term as it has w o g in it) neither party is going to go, "oh ok you are right, I'll change" are they? Either let those threads die by ignoring them or post somewhere else. If you are looking for a fight, just look at who you are trying to impress, and think again, and if you don't give a fuck, them remember no one else does either so take you attitude elsewhere - thats not censorship, thats common sense.