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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:21 pm
by abstractsound
how come every message board on the internet has people ready for confrontation?

JT - you confronted me right? i dont mess with people on internet boards for that very reason. i dont know who you are and what you do. for all i know then and now youve mastered my favorite song ever, whatever that may be. you asked for my experience with why i gave that advice and so i provided it. you cant tell me that my experiences in life are wrong. if our opinions differ, so be it, we are adults and entitled to differing opinions. dont attack me as a person though, because frankly if i had known my post would spark this "everyone hate on abstractsound" trend i wouldnt have bothered.

im on this board for the same reason as everyone else. dubstep has touched me in one way or another. in the essence of dub itself, lets keep with the positivity and remember i and i are all brethren.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:05 pm
by jtransition
abstractsound wrote:how come every message board on the internet has people ready for confrontation?

JT - you confronted me right? i dont mess with people on internet boards for that very reason. i dont know who you are and what you do. for all i know then and now youve mastered my favorite song ever, whatever that may be. you asked for my experience with why i gave that advice and so i provided it. you cant tell me that my experiences in life are wrong. if our opinions differ, so be it, we are adults and entitled to differing opinions. dont attack me as a person though, because frankly if i had known my post would spark this "everyone hate on abstractsound" trend i wouldnt have bothered.

im on this board for the same reason as everyone else. dubstep has touched me in one way or another. in the essence of dub itself, lets keep with the positivity and remember i and i are all brethren.
LOL

Abstractsound
Please do not take any offence from my comments ,Let me explain.
Of the two hundred or so requests for jobs that i get a year 75% are from people who have the wrong attitude Eg I have just passed a ***** course and i would like a job doing blah blah but i have no actual experience and i would do it for ****$ per year (slight edit).

Whilst i believe in paying my runners ,Anyone who is talking about money or how long it will take to get trained up or who thinks that they know it all will not last. This is my experience and the experience of other studio owners that i have asked,believe me i have sacked eight runners in ten years because they were wasting my time.
My Co Engineer has been with me a few years now but he still reminds me that he was painting the waiting room after being here for six months.
He made it because anything that i asked him to do he did to the best of his ability,(which in turn freed me up to concentrate on more important things)When i leave him in the studio with a client i know from the bottom my heart that he will try his best.

Jason

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:04 pm
by abstractsound
then that is reassuring. i understand and agree with your attitude whole heartedly. but as devils advocate, there are also people that dont always have the best intentions, especially if they can tell someone has little to no experience. all i was saying was to take heed.


and in response to original post, another great option is working at a duplication/restoration house. again youd have to start for free, but transfering audio between different mediums can be a critical background skill for mastering.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:58 am
by jtransition
abstractsound wrote:then that is reassuring. i understand and agree with your attitude whole heartedly. but as devils advocate, there are also people that dont always have the best intentions, especially if they can tell someone has little to no experience. all i was saying was to take heed.


and in response to original post, another great option is working at a duplication/restoration house. again youd have to start for free, but transfering audio between different mediums can be a critical background skill for mastering.
Agreed,But they need to be paid otherwise there is no mutual respect which can breed resentment.
Jason

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:08 am
by psyphon
Jesus, it's like the Jeremy Kyle show here....

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:51 am
by AFL
Try assisting at a studio. May require many volunteer hours of just answering phones and shit but you may start to pick something up or get to sit in on sessions, also gets your foot in the door.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:08 am
by ozols man
i havent read any of these posts but the best advice i can give is simply sort out ur own studio AND START GRINDING! advertise ur services everywhere and just fuckin master anyones music wether it be dubstep or rock or woteva! dont limit ur self and get involved in anything u can really! i dont think its so much wot course u do, this can help u with making contacts and using studios but to think the certificate at the end will help u anymore is a bit naieve. everyone in this industry is tryna make it so the best way to elevate ur own status is to "help others make it" if u get wot im saying

rant over

good luck

aleks

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:18 pm
by d-T-r
music tech is completely different to sound engineering.

sound engineering is where you learn about mastering more indepth. but even still, i did a sound engineering course and although they show how to use stuff and the theory behind it, at the end of the day alot of it comes down to your ears anyway.

you know when you've made something sound better. course are good if you want practical hands on approach but you can learn most by just experimenting. im just lucky i blagged my way on the course anyway and didnt pay for it.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:09 pm
by AFL
£10 Bag wrote: oh and make sure you can afford lots of expensive hardware :P
So, so true. People seem to think you can just pop in a bunch of plug ins and you're fine. Not so, as far as mastering goes nothing sounds as good as some really nice hardware.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:24 pm
by auan
dTruk wrote:im just lucky i blagged my way on the course anyway and didnt pay for it.
How??