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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:14 pm
by mumble
I cant wait for Trance-Step personally :|

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:24 pm
by chamclowder
Dubtechno isn't anything new... Martyn, to a lesser extent D1... also Shiva ( http://www.dubstep.fm/djshiva )

2563 or whatever, TRG and Dub U...

dubtechno isn't anything new, it's been done for a long time... those are the more dubstepish dubtech... Surgeon is more techno-step dubtechno

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:34 pm
by stenchman
its all about drugstep, thugstep and gypsystep

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:35 pm
by r.demon
Stenchman wrote:its all about drugstep, thugstep and gypsystep
hahaha... sounds bangin... but realy tho... crackstep and smackstep .... big.... :P

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:26 pm
by |nipsy|
|Nipsy| wrote:Dubtech
:o copyright :D

Check the evidence :!:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:54 pm
by neville bartos
SUB TECH

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:15 pm
by r.demon
bumps! !

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:17 pm
by fixation
Alex-C wrote:
genres are starting to do my nut in!
QFT

is either good or bad, end of!

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:18 pm
by whighzeguy
I agree. Things got pretty bad in D.C./Bmore as far as pissing contests between sub-genres of DnB. Liquid is better, Neuro is better, blah blah blah.
It all lead to the demise of what was a pretty strong DnB scene IMO.
iLL BiLL Bachelor wrote:dubstep IS dubstep!!! i think if somebody is going to name sub genres dubstep will die like dnb!!! :?

wot do yu think?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:22 pm
by misk
this argument is dead. nobody cares about a new sub genre, as people like to think that dubstep is immune to all the troubles plaguing other electronic music genres. all the while they let it crash and burn.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:11 pm
by entheogen
chamclowder wrote:Dubtechno isn't anything new... Martyn, to a lesser extent D1... also Shiva ( http://www.dubstep.fm/djshiva )

2563 or whatever, TRG and Dub U...

dubtechno isn't anything new, it's been done for a long time... those are the more dubstepish dubtech... Surgeon is more techno-step dubtechno
The dubstep artists you have described are not dub techno artists.

Dub Techno refers more to artists on labels such as Basic Channel and Rhythm and Sound. Here's an example of a track I have in my collection:

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=6442

Although dubstep fits under the large 'techno' umbrella, it is in no means standard techno. Newer artists such as 2562 and Martyn are influenced by the dub techno artists, but their style is a definite development from it, utilising ragga and 2-step infused rhythms rather than the 4/4 rhthms of dub techno artists. Their style has developed simultaneously out of more recent dubstep and earlier dub techno. There is a definite sub-genre materialising, whether it is given a name such as 'dubtech' will really be determined by whether or not the artists making it label it so.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:33 pm
by section 8
manstep ftw!



Ashley wrote:two new sub genres,

hipstep
there actually is a hipstep :o


www.myspace.com/hipstepbookingz

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:34 pm
by wooda916
sub genres are pointless, but as a description rather than a genre per se, they can be usefull.

for example if you were to say 'i make techy dubstep' how is that any differant really than combining the who words to form techstep or dubtech or whatever. doesnt necessarily have to be a sub-genre. its the same sort of thing as having a label that covers a certain style, like in dnb, hospital is a 'liquid' label, renegade hardware is a tech/neuro label etc. it can act as a helpfull description.

It is shit however when people say 'i only like such and such' and write of other styles.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:52 pm
by grievous_angel
Dubstep does not come under the "techno umbrella".

Dubstep is from garage.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:03 pm
by |nipsy|
sub genres just segregate ppl up an dubstep does not need that!

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:55 pm
by relaks
NO.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:57 pm
by r.demon
im with that.... unity is key... in all aspects..... sub-genres are a bit of a booboo in that respect.....

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:07 pm
by entheogen
Grievous Angel wrote:Dubstep does not come under the "techno umbrella".

Dubstep is from garage.
Techno as a term is that has been used to describe electronic music as a whole, as well as an individual genre. I was using it in the former sense.

Dubstep is also more than just something from Garage.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:08 pm
by relaks
relaks wrote:NO.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:14 pm
by concept_
snapstep
cracklestep burial
popstep