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theonelikepaul wrote:Like I said, I've had a virus b and now the virus poco. The presets were the first thing to be deleted. They are completely useless due to 'panorama' settings on everything, which means the sound pans left/right accross the stereo field, rendering any preset useless below 300hz (unable to cut to vinyl).

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After deleting the presets your left with what I think is a weak set of oscilators.

Osc1 set to Sine on Virus, aint got nothing on Osc 1 set to Sine on Massive (my new favourite). In fact even the old MS20 from the Legacy plugin pack can do a better bass with just one Oscliator.

However after saying all that, I wouldnt mind hearing some tips for the virus as I did pay about 250 for that buggering vst!

Hi Paul. I suppose the main strenght of the Virus was always its character and its ability to create distinctive and interesting sounds, that said i never had problems getting bass and subs with it. I sold mine, mainly because I was starting to feel too many people were using it and I reckon a crackable vst is a year or two away (so it'll be everywhere) and I also needed to downsize my gear a bit. But also because of the legacy collection, yes the MS20 and Abes Operator. I know your probably tweaking synths years but Howard Scar's book "Programming Analogue Synths" is free from the Access site and is deep on info with tips like recurssive modulation (i.e. an evelope modulates one of its own stages) to emulate say Moog style decay stages etc. In fact I recommend that to anyone who enjoys synthesis regardless of what they use.

ikeaboy wrote: Howard Scar's book "Programming Analogue Synths" is free from the Access site and is deep on info with tips like recurssive modulation (i.e. an evelope modulates one of its own stages) to emulate say Moog style decay stages etc. In fact I recommend that to anyone who enjoys synthesis regardless of what they use.

Oh Safe! I'll check that out.

Actually my favourite thing to do with the virus, for non bass sounds, is apply extreme amounts of chorus, and the set the chorus rate and depth to controllers on my oxygen 8 keyboard, you can get some crazy noise out of it.

Back to the original topic, another hardware synth you might find cheap, and can be racked and simply sent into your line in, is the Waldorf Pulse:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/waldorf/pulse.shtml

I believe dom & roland used one of these for doing bass on a lot of his d&b stuff.

LOL I do love reading comments by people who dont have hardware synths telling others not to get them! Hmmm...

Anyways mate if you do want one I have some good and bad notes for you.

I have a TI, use nothing else really. Its a synth so, its good for bass, its good for leads, its good for pads, its good for perc if fact...Its a synth its good for making anything! The pre sets are geared towards trance yes but good lord, turn the arp off n play with the ocs n your away! Its a monster of a synth but tbh the reason I got it is simple and the reason why most people spend so much money on hardware, it sets you away from the rest. Its great everyone can have studios at home but everyone runs massive, preditor or reason n everyone has the same sample set! I know when I find a nice lil FX I know not many people will have it so my sound is more original! I know I'm gonna get the software heads whining at me but sadly its the truth, you can't just flick on a VST n use a preset knowing its not been used b4.

On top of all that said

Once you download the free presets on the virus site your TI is loaded with banks a-u with 128 patches in each giving you... 2861 patches. Plus 4 RAM banks again with 128 in each. Plus you can save your own.

Then you have the hands on part, try tweeking 4-5 nobs at once with your vst... And god I get sick of using a mouse lol! I work inIT so maybe a reason for it!

Its matrix sequncer is second to none, moan about preset users, make a few changes in here n its all messed up.

The VST, sync side of things.. This can play up but you just turn the TI off and back on and your away. With direct out for bouncing, 3 stereo outputs within Cubase and a damn good ASIO driver again I'm smiling!

I've worked on the B and the TI. I bought my TI on the back of the B. You can get a B fairly cheap now if you dont mind working in midi but if you have the £ I'd mark the virus as at least an 8/10 if not 9! Still on the Future Music must have list although the Snow is number 4!

I'm about to buy another hardware synth soon so I'll have more of an opinion rather than being TI based lol

Good luck!

160R wrote:
@FSTZ: is that what you used on mr. positiv? i like that tune transcend also has a good sound.

safe,

the bass in mr. positive was a combo of samples and the novation

like that reece that comes in every now and then, is a sample

I'm on a Novation X-Station 25 as well - its a gem and can sound smooth or as sick as you like. I've used it for everything from electro and breaks through D&B to dubstep. Versatile. And cheap!

[hijack] FSTZ - got any templates you'd like to swap? [/hijack]

BITTER wrote:[hijack] FSTZ - got any templates you'd like to swap? [/hijack]

yeah man!

I just gotta get MIDIOX workin again

I was having some issues a while ago

but hit me on AIM or on the PM

hmm.. i'm still very curios about the blofeld and virus. there sure are some nice alternatives shown here...

Dave Smith Prophet 08 has really fat oscillators and sick routing possibilities. you can chain em up too for more voices/oscillators. Have to agree with the Virus TI - its a badboy for pretty much everything, including drums, and the hypersaw functions etc are meaty.