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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:25 pm
by psyolopher
bellybelle wrote:Psyolopher wrote:Belle, you just killed the law of attraction....
Why do people get killed?
DO you think a Muslim child wanted to get bombed?
Thats also a sort of question that just keeps getting ignored!
People die because they must. Hate to be clinical or cruel but people have to die. All people. Thats not a negative or positive. It just is. Can you imagine how much crueler life would be if people didn't die? Our relationship with Death has nothing to do with its actual purpose, which is balance. Just because we attribute more meaning to it, it doesn't mean there is any higher purpose for it. Death is not justice. Its not a reward. Its a balancing part of life. And that's how it has to be.
That is very true, i agree with you!
Im also thinking, what about 'crazy' people?
Dont they attract something? doesnt seem like thier heads do!
Like super paranoid people, OMG THEY ARE GONNA KILL US!
Then no one kills him....
How can the secret answer that?
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:27 pm
by bellybelle
Psyolopher wrote:Like super paranoid people, OMG THEY ARE GONNA KILL US!
Then no one kills him....
How can the secret answer that?
those people are already dead. their bodies just haven't caught up yet. and there is no need to do what someone's already done to themselves.
Cheer up, buttercup!

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:30 pm
by tuck
Psyolopher wrote:has THE SECRET, had any influence on the world economy?
Why do you think 95% of all the money in the world is earned and owned by like 5% of the population? That can't be an accident. The law of attraction works all the time for everybody whether they know about the secret or not.
Psyolopher wrote:Like super paranoid people, OMG THEY ARE GONNA KILL US!
Then no one kills him....
How can the secret answer that?
Because deep down he doesn't believe that "they" are out to get him and doesn't really
want to be killed
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:30 pm
by psyolopher
Tuck wrote:The secret changes nothing for those who want nothing to change. Conscious or sub-conscious the law of attraction will bring you the things you are thinking of and you will deny yourself the things that you do not truly believe you deserve. That's why you think ice cream and get a hot dog because you don't truly believe you deserve ice cream and the obvious alternative is something you don't want but can't stop thinking about.
No? How many times did you read the book?
One time to many i think!
Really, i really wanted the ice cream!
And my mind didnt think of anything else(oh yes, and pussy)!
But why did i get something else?
Things are more...random and mystical!
The secret is not the answer if you dont know the question!
Why would my thoughts attract everything i think of?
This goes out to the theory that we're all connected, but that we have so much power over the universe makes little sense!
Pure logic tells me that this would then have an end!
And Dtruk, u lost me!
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:31 pm
by d-T-r
bellybelle wrote:Psyolopher wrote:Like super paranoid people, OMG THEY ARE GONNA KILL US!
Then no one kills him....
How can the secret answer that?
those people are already dead. their bodies just haven't caught up yet. and there is no need to do what someone's already done to themselves.
Cheer up, buttercup!

i wouldnt say they were already dead. just delusional.
the whole mind is generally pretty dillusiona anyway even as far as 'sane' people go.
'ego'
ask the right questions get the right answers.
ask the wrong questions, end up getting more questions.
think more about less and less about more.
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:33 pm
by psyolopher
Tuck wrote:Psyolopher wrote:has THE SECRET, had any influence on the world economy?
Why do you think 95% of all the money in the world is earned and owned by like 5% of the population? That can't be an accident. The law of attraction works all the time for everybody whether they know about the secret or not.
Psyolopher wrote:Like super paranoid people, OMG THEY ARE GONNA KILL US!
Then no one kills him....
How can the secret answer that?
Because deep down he doesn't believe that "they" are out to get him and doesn't really
want to be killed
deep down? how the fuck do you know?
Do you know anybody like this?
And that % statement, didnt answer my question!
bellybelle wrote:Psyolopher wrote:Like super paranoid people, OMG THEY ARE GONNA KILL US!
Then no one kills him....
How can the secret answer that?
those people are already dead. their bodies just haven't caught up yet. and there is no need to do what someone's already done to themselves.
Cheer up, buttercup!

NEVAH!!!!
I do not buy into that last pseudo science part!!'
ok, fine i will cheer up! =D
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:37 pm
by bagelator
the voice over guy's voice is too annoying so i only lasted 20 seconds
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:37 pm
by bellybelle
dTruk wrote:bellybelle wrote:Psyolopher wrote:Like super paranoid people, OMG THEY ARE GONNA KILL US!
Then no one kills him....
How can the secret answer that?
those people are already dead. their bodies just haven't caught up yet. and there is no need to do what someone's already done to themselves.
Cheer up, buttercup!

i wouldnt say they were already dead. just delusional.
the whole mind is generally pretty dillusiona anyway even as far as 'sane' people go.
'ego'
ask the right questions get the right answers.
ask the wrong questions, end up getting more questions.
think more about less and less about more.
Yeah I can see that. But I think people who are afraid to live are usually dead on some level. Their behavior manifests in ways that are counterproductive to life, i.e. fearful, cautious to the point of being debilitating, generally distrustful and contemptuous, etc. Actively wanting to live seems to protect us more than we think. Being positive produces similar effects. Death and Birth withstanding, our interpretation plays a large role in our experience. Even the most horrid of circumstances can be refocused and learned from. That's the blessing of conscious positivity.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:41 pm
by d-T-r
exactly.
what you persist resists, and what you resist persists.
confusion comes when you think you are resisting what you are persisting...which is what i thinks happening right here.
"every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction"
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:46 pm
by misk
FSTZ wrote:I am a fan of the Law of fives, personally
big fucking up! law of fives is TRUTH.
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:47 pm
by psyolopher
dTruk wrote:exactly.
what you persist resists, and what you resist persists.
confusion comes when you think you are resisting what you are persisting...which is what i thinks happening right here.
"every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction"
The secret is a tricky bastard, what you say there speaks the truth(for me)
But the secret pulls in stuff from all directions(Quotes, exprience, some random professors nobody knows about), and its all added in a soup called A THEORY!
Why is this called the secret anyway?
Why is that the theme?
If this was some universal message of truth that anybody should know, why is she then making a shitload of money of it? and letting us waste our money on it?
Why isnt this free?
why didnt that bitch devote her life to tell the truth?
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:51 pm
by d-T-r
because ultimate truths are within and cant be expressed through words or art. small fragments or glimpses can be , but the higher truths are found within.
( i know it sounds really lame hippy/new age etc but thats how it is)
dude you've been fucking with astral projection, im quite mistifed as to why you arent taking a different stance on all this. you have a glimpe of whats possible already. use it.
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:55 pm
by bellybelle
she still has to survive hehehe. I mean, yeah people could be more altruistic. Kinda seems like a catch-22 tho....like, er, if you take anything personally away from helping other people, its not really good anymore. I don't understand how that works.
Either she shares and does not profit and is then considered an idiot for not capitalizing on it or....she shares and makes a profit, and then she's self-serving. Better that she shares at all. I tell you....at times, I really believe the more someone works for good, the higher the level of scrutiny they come under than if they were malicious. In order to be Good, you have to damned near be a saint for someone to take you seriously. Make one mistake and its, "I knew they weren't all that good. *self-solace*". As opposed to seeing their collective body of work and allowing them to be fallible as humans tend to be, no matter how enlightened.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:04 pm
by psyolopher
I am hardcore thinker, i think all day.....
I have my believes and my personal truths!
But, this secret shit is all over and all i see is commercialism!
Its a scam as i view it!
Its like taking basic thinking process and multiplying it by a thousand!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BMJmbEqCR ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkvvpJ_pVQ&NR=1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dmh3mVQtl ... re=related
Dont you get it?
This is boosting the Metaphysical inclination!
Now read about that!!!!!
Thats what all religions have in common!
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:09 pm
by psyolopher
bellybelle wrote:she still has to survive hehehe. I mean, yeah people could be more altruistic. Kinda seems like a catch-22 tho....like, er, if you take anything personally away from helping other people, its not really good anymore. I don't understand how that works.
Either she shares and does not profit and is then considered an idiot for not capitalizing on it or....she shares and makes a profit, and then she's self-serving. Better that she shares at all. I tell you....at times, I really believe the more someone works for good, the higher the level of scrutiny they come under than if they were malicious. In order to be Good, you have to damned near be a saint for someone to take you seriously. Make one mistake and its, "I knew they weren't all that good. *self-solace*". As opposed to seeing their collective body of work and allowing them to be fallible as humans tend to be, no matter how enlightened.

That bitch wanted to get rich fast.....
most self-helping books build upon wishful thinking and in basic they teach you that you should think positive!
Do you need to buy a book to know that?
no...
This is a new epidemic which makes people stop thinking and questioning is boosting the feeling of things making sense, which does exclude logic from the outside!
Question everything, think, be more aware!
That is what I believe is the most important thing in the post modern age!
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:20 pm
by psyolopher
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:36 pm
by sqwol
he who drops keys in toilet has shitty time.
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:07 pm
by christophera
The Secret was probably a smear campaign designed by freemasons to discredit this whole Consciousness is the Fabric of the Cosmos thing
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:00 am
by psyolopher
ChristopherA wrote:The Secret was probably a smear campaign designed by freemasons to discredit this whole Consciousness is the Fabric of the Cosmos thing
That conspiracy might add up!
When you think of how they marketed it up!
It actually popped into my mind aswell, but i have no hardcore evidence to back that up anyway!