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SubZer wrote:don't forget to save!

a lesson learnt the hard way

Tempo is more 140 - 145.

Paulie wrote:Tempo is more 140 - 145.

Oh no, Dubstep's getting faster....

Give it a few years and it'll be 150-155 then 160-165 and then.....

DNB!

forensix wrote:

SubZer wrote:don't forget to save!

a lesson learnt the hard way

hahaha yep!

Oh no, Dubstep's getting faster....

Give it a few years and it'll be 150-155 then 160-165 and then.....

I hope not!

The point after all is that it's supposed to be different to D'n'B!


Love the picture by the way - pure class, and a reminder of the roots of this artform!

The funny thing is, I still use similar kit at times to create sounds, as I have a couple of old function generators (one of 'em is quite similar to the one you see in the picture on the top right of kit stack), one of which I actually did a gig with earlier this year at college!
I managed to figure out how to sweep octaves on the dial and do some basic harmonising to the other musicians I was playing with, and mashed up the sound through this wicked analogue delay unit I've got!

Proppa Old Skool!


Once again I digress...

3DM wrote:The point after all is that it's supposed to be different to D'n'B

so thats what its all about then, this dubstep malarky

so thats what its all about then, this dubstep malarky

ooh, Handbags at dawn!


I stopped listening to D'n'B at home a while back, as it's just so formulaic now, and seeing as I was around for Jungle the first time, couldn't really see much point in reinventing that wheel either.

After all, one of the great things about electronic music is it can sound like whatever you want it to sound like, so why bother with formulas, and why would you want to use those tempos, unless you plan to reclaim them from D'n'B..?

wasn't a dig at you mate, problem with type is its lacking a tone of voice.

Anyhow just to clarify: creating a binarism such as dubstep/dnb isn't really the point is it?

This music is what it is, not what it isn't.

wasn't a dig at you mate, problem with type is its lacking a tone of voice.

Nah, don't worry, I didn't take it that way!
Just couldn't resist a little tease, that's all.


What seems to happen is that when new forms (to use Roni Size's phrase) emerge, the first couple of years it's all exciting and experimental - and then the press gets hold of it, pins it down to specific categories or elements, then the record companies (I'm talking the big ones, not Indies) ride on the back of the hype looking for a fast buck, and we get 'niche' marketing - World Music (what is that?!), Pop, Rock, Dance etc.

These are all stereotypical labels invented to make the record companies' job of marketing to the masses that much easier.

Then, after this has been established, you get the copy cats who come along because they see what they think is a 'cool' thing (and a way to make easy money), and stereotype it even more (see D'n'B and R'n'B for details), so then you get lots of samey sounding tunes coming out, and that's about when I lose interest!

I mean, look what happened to Punk for example...when it started, it was a truly revolutionary artform, which really did scare the shiz out of the establishment (for a while there, The Sex Pistols had a Police tail wherever they went).
What we see now is Punk as lifestyle choice, often devoid of the original politics which drove it (see Green Day for details), cos you look good in da levvers an mohies innit?

The knack for avoiding this kind of watering down and stereotyping is quite simple, but the record companies and press don't get it at all.

KEEP CHANGING AND EVOLVING!!

Remember, we don't have to accept what they want us to be, because we can be whatever we want to be.

Unfortunately, it takes some people most of their lives to realise this.

Vive la Difference!

rekall wrote:

Looks neat - does it have that tricky bossa nova ting?

forensix wrote:never underestimate the power of the button

and surely never underestimate the power of this one:

Shonky wrote:

forensix wrote:yeah its really difficult not being able to solve every drum problem with a rexed amen

Rexed amen - never thought of that, has anyone tried this before?

sounds pretty revolutionary to me...

oh--and find some drum kits...not loops
you might want to read up on vst plugins and synthesizers for your bass

krept wrote:

Shonky wrote:

forensix wrote:yeah its really difficult not being able to solve every drum problem with a rexed amen

Rexed amen - never thought of that, has anyone tried this before?

sounds pretty revolutionary to me...

oh--and find some drum kits...not loops
you might want to read up on vst plugins and synthesizers for your bass

This just gets better and better - where can I find out about these vst's?