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nesslei wrote:

triky wrote:sounds like a sect. my plan is to work my head off, earn millions, and reitre early to an uninhabited tropical island that i will buy with my millions (or alternatively rent for 99 years) and live there in my bungalow eating fruit and fish and growing greens. i'll have a nice little canoe, and maybe a veggie garden, couple of chickens or what not, maybe a pig. done. oh maybe a solar panel or two (for my satellite phone so i can get the internet). and a massive hammock!

can i come? i'll be your canoe captainess.

yup. i'll put in an order for an extra hammock (a bio one of course).

butbh

yes I am
we have been too busy earning money man
not enuff time creating, doing stuff, making shit

Wherever you need to go to be here more often.

not there
here

im just sick.

I visited Cosanti when I was there - Which is a small crop of the early buildings called asps which are half domes - most of which are used as foundries for metal work - to make bronze windbells - they make their money from the sale of these windbells - windchimes...

Remember - they are in the desert outside of Phoenix, AZ - IS HOT...Most of the domes and buildings are built half undergound and with this primitive airconditioning system - there are pipes going deep into the ground and resurfacing at another spot in the room - a fan pulls the hot air down and the air cools; condensates - and then is pulled back up as really fresh cool air..no freon or cooling chemicals needed...it's a gigantic water bong..for your house..

THe whole place embodies the "Future- Primative" idea...

Here is the place I visited..


Here is a bell...

The movie easy rider completely put me off the notion of back to earth communal living.

^Why?
It was pretty laid back as far as I can remember....swimming in bollocky, sharing everything etc.
Mind yu communes here generally deteriorated because of smack or Children of God type brainwashing.

I had a trip in New Orleans once due to Easyrider influence...pretty heavy dealing with homosexual advances when yr ripped.

ventures like these work if you get a group of people involved who realise that you have to do some work and that a whole village won't appear through incantation and casual sex with everyone else's partners

Everything seems a bit fuckery at the moment, but I'm sure everything will die down soon enough

How bout you chill out on the weed smokin and just deal with reallity...

WAAAAE9 wrote:How bout you chill out on the weed smokin and just deal with reallity...

I can see you are okay as the things are... good for you, I wish I could be that apathetic...

Running away from things or trying to ignore them is never a healthy long term solution.

datura wrote:Running away from things or trying to ignore them is never a healthy long term solution.

was that for me or...?

RaposaNegra wrote:

datura wrote:Running away from things or trying to ignore them is never a healthy long term solution.

was that for me or...?

It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just a general comment in relation to using these type of communities as a refuge from society or your problems.

I think it's a way of achieving freedom

Its a way of taking a position and say "I don't like the way we live"

Can you imagine how many people are unhappy with theirs lives? They don't like their jobs, they are always worried about the bills... it's so stressful!
Without even talking about those that have nothing to eat...

I'm not saying moving to a community would change this but imagine if the world was a global eco-village... I think all of our problems would be solved!

maybe is just me dreaming awaken ..

RaposaNegra wrote:

WAAAAE9 wrote:How bout you chill out on the weed smokin and just deal with reallity...

I can see you are okay as the things are... good for you, I wish I could be that apathetic...

Apathy.....nah. I'm a youth worker, tryin to make things in my community better. Not apathetic just a realist. If you live in a westernised society, accept that to get along your prob gona have to get a job and the rest of the shit that goes with it.

Couple of nights ago I dreamed of future living areas. It was a fair, a presentation of some sort. There were houses floating in the water, and flower bud like ones built on the ground. Organic designs, blending with the nature. We were also served food, mostly fruit based dishes. Felt like being asked a question - how would you feel in environment like that? Pretty neat dream if you ask me.

there is not enough land for everyone on this planit to live like this. It's actually really unsustanable. it's a very elitist way of looking at things and ultimately unworkable.

metalboxproducts wrote:there is not enough land for everyone on this planit to live like this. It's actually really unsustanable. it's a very elitist way of looking at things and ultimately unworkable.

Yes there is. The sky is the limit.

Ashley2 wrote:

metalboxproducts wrote:there is not enough land for everyone on this planit to live like this. It's actually really unsustanable. it's a very elitist way of looking at things and ultimately unworkable.

Yes there is. The sky is the limit.

haha yeah . where do we grow the food for everyone?

metalboxproducts wrote:

Ashley2 wrote:

metalboxproducts wrote:there is not enough land for everyone on this planit to live like this. It's actually really unsustanable. it's a very elitist way of looking at things and ultimately unworkable.

Yes there is. The sky is the limit.

haha yeah . where do we grow the food for everyone?

At the moment on the ground, but irrigation systems, artificial lighting can be stacked on each other like a multi-storey car park. People grow weed in an attic, why not potatoes and chickens?