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Spaceboy wrote:debating the existence of God is the most futile thing you can do to yourself. Infact this would be a never ending post...long after dubstep has died...

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We've had this topic before. and i think the same people participated. Not the best place to disscuss this topic imo. It would be far better to discuss it face to face...... Now who wants a fight....

ebles420 wrote:It does seem pretty strange that certain people are so willing to point out the minor holes in evolutionary theory, and yet cite things such as the Bible or Q'ran (ancient and medieval texts from a time in history when we thought that the earth was flat, etc) as 'evidence' for their beliefs.

There is absolutely no evidence that anyone has ever thought that the earth is flat, (apart from Terry Pratchett, and he was right.)
and you can't prove me otherwise
p.s
I thought this thread was going to be about someone donating me a new sequencer instead of reason 2.5 but oh well.

Spaceboy wrote:its' funny how america a bastion for modern thinking, science and development, is such a fervernt supporter of religion.

Name one useful American invention, belief system or way of living, hmmm ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

capitalism

Spaceboy wrote:capitalism

Yeah, you're right, should thank em for that (even though being a greedy shit was around for some time before that). Everyone's a winner on that one

obIwan wrote:There is absolutely no evidence that anyone has ever thought that the earth is flat, (apart from Terry Pratchett, and he was right.)

Pretty sure I've heard talk of that one...
Ok, bad example maybe. How about a time when the idea of the geocentric universe was the status quo.
Better?

ebles420 wrote:

obIwan wrote:There is absolutely no evidence that anyone has ever thought that the earth is flat, (apart from Terry Pratchett, and he was right.)

Pretty sure I've heard talk of that one...
Ok, bad example maybe. How about a time when the idea of the geocentric universe was the status quo.
Better?

columbus did innit. fuckin melon

Spaceboy wrote:columbus did innit. fuckin melon

What does that mean?

he thought the world was flat old boy

From New Scientist:

"Maybe our universe isn't real. Yale Philosopher Nick Bostrum has claimed that we are probably living inside a computer simulation. Assuming it ever becomes possible to simulate consciousness, then presumably future civilisations would try it, probably many times over. Most perceived universes would be simulated ones - so chances are we are in one of them. In that case, perhaps all those cosmological oddities such as dark matter and dark energy are simply patches, stuck on to cover up early inconsistencies in our simulation."


http://www.newscientistspace.com/popupa ... n163#faq10

Spaceboy wrote:he thought the world was flat old boy

so we agree then.... someone thought the world was round.
how does that make me a melon?

masstronaut wrote:From New Scientist:

"Maybe our universe isn't real. Yale Philosopher Nick Bostrum has claimed that we are probably living inside a computer simulation. Assuming it ever becomes possible to simulate consciousness, then presumably future civilisations would try it, probably many times over. Most perceived universes would be simulated ones - so chances are we are in one of them. In that case, perhaps all those cosmological oddities such as dark matter and dark energy are simply patches, stuck on to cover up early inconsistencies in our simulation."


http://www.newscientistspace.com/popupa ... n163#faq10

Someone's watched the matrix a few too many times - philosophy's an art not a science. Reminds me of that bit in Animal House where they're very stoned and talking about how there's universes within the atoms of their fingernails

I thought it was funny. I think he's done all the legwork though - mathematical analysis to show that it is more likely than not that we are living in a simulation

I say bring it on. If the original point of your post was that kids are growing up believing a load of dangerous old nonsense then the more options the better. More chance that people will have to think for themselves.

masstronaut wrote:From New Scientist:

"Maybe our universe isn't real. Yale Philosopher Nick Bostrum has claimed that we are probably living inside a computer simulation. Assuming it ever becomes possible to simulate consciousness, then presumably future civilisations would try it, probably many times over. Most perceived universes would be simulated ones - so chances are we are in one of them. In that case, perhaps all those cosmological oddities such as dark matter and dark energy are simply patches, stuck on to cover up early inconsistencies in our simulation."


http://www.newscientistspace.com/popupa ... n163#faq10

I've read this guy's stuff before, its BS. He has some amazing ideas, but his math doesn't add up. Its all arbitary (sp?).

masstronaut wrote:I thought it was funny. I think he's done all the legwork though - mathematical analysis to show that it is more likely than not that we are living in a simulation

I say bring it on. If the original point of your post was that kids are growing up believing a load of dangerous old nonsense then the more options the better. More chance that people will have to think for themselves.

word

ebles420 wrote:

Spaceboy wrote:he thought the world was flat old boy

so we agree then.... someone thought the world was round.
how does that make me a melon?

columbus is the melon, not yourself.

Columbus didn't think the world was flat! he was trying to go around it to get a different route to India which is what he thought America was, impossible to do if he thought it was flat, and anyway, if it was flat what would have been the point, he would have fallen off the edge with his crew and never get to report it, bit of a suicide mission? I feel like a primary school teacher sometimes

Columbus was a cock though, may he rot in hell

hell doesnt exist tho does it. lolol

Spaceboy wrote:hell doesnt exist tho does it. lolol

You not been to Bognor I guess