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ouch.

init patch on which synth?

sorry mate, hope that didnt hurt too much (wasnt trying to be rude), but you aint gonna re-create a reece like that in 5 mins

That's bait, but then all I was using was a vanilla Subtractor.

If I reach into my magic bag of combi patches, I'm sure I could find a sound or two that are equally as ill as the one in your sample...!

futures_untold wrote:If I reach into my magic bag of combi patches, I'm sure I could find a sound or two that are equally as ill as the one in your sample...!

that would be sweet, i was told a while back those type of sounds could not be achieved in reason at all

i had very little knoledge of production techniques when i was told that and it disheatened me a little. but i was determined to achieve a similar kind of vibe from reason alone.

im just starting to achieve it now actually, though not to noisia's standards (that was who the clip was of by the way)

check the top track in my virb, that was one thor reece, resampled and played about with about 5 times over in the NN-XT

That's defo a pretty evil sounding Hoover lol!!

Noisia are production nutters anyway, so to be able to pull off a Noisia sound on a Subtractor would take some work anyway!!!

Regarding building Noisia style combi's, just bare in mind that they use a lot of notch filters. You can create your own notch filter using an Mclass EQ (or a series of them). Here's one I made earlier ---> http://www.mediafire.com/?2ybrge11kzz (art attack lol)

futures_untold wrote:That's defo a pretty evil sounding Hoover lol!!

Noisia are production nutters anyway, so to be able to pull off a Noisia sound on a Subtractor would take some work anyway!!!

Regarding building Noisia style combi's, just bare in mind that they use a lot of notch filters. You can create your own notch filter using an Mclass EQ (or a series of them). Here's one I made earlier ---> http://www.mediafire.com/?2ybrge11kzz (art attack lol)

pretty sweet little patch there pat, only had a quick mess with it so far, looking forward to seeing what i can squeeze out of it though, nice one

darkmatterUK wrote:looking forward to seeing what i can squeeze out of it though, nice one

I'm going to make another one replacing the lowpass filter with adjustable band Q on the band reject filter.

I'll post it as soon as it's done.

Here we goes boys & girls ---> http://www.mediafire.com/?zlzzduwzgcg

Notch Filter combi as above, minus the lowpass filter, plus variable Q width tied to an lfo

futures_untold wrote:Here we goes boys & girls ---> http://www.mediafire.com/?zlzzduwzgcg

Notch Filter combi as above, minus the lowpass filter, plus variable Q width tied to an lfo

gwan!!!! ill try this out later, thanks

btw, what do you reckon of the gui?

Thought I'd post in here, try keep it on the DL.

Basically, I have NOOOOOO experience creating music. Nothing. But it's getting really frustrating when I can imagine some great tracks, but don't have the skill to make them.

I've got Reason 4 now...what do I do .

It's definately a bit intimidating. I'd ask for the basics, but I can imagine them being too advance!

How do I even use this program basically? Even if I don't start out making dubstep tracks, just some simple beats for now.

wubstep wrote:Thought I'd post in here, try keep it on the DL.

Basically, I have NOOOOOO experience creating music. Nothing. But it's getting really frustrating when I can imagine some great tracks, but don't have the skill to make them.

I've got Reason 4 now...what do I do .

It's definately a bit intimidating. I'd ask for the basics, but I can imagine them being too advance!

How do I even use this program basically? Even if I don't start out making dubstep tracks, just some simple beats for now.

the manual is always a good place to start

Yeah, I'm new here too.

I've been DJing for a couple of years in tech-house, dub-techno, breaks and progressive circles, but have always loved dubstep. A night at FabricLive a few months back was enough to kick me into gear and get on the case.

I'm a complete n00b in Reason 4, but getting there.

Danny Stamp wrote:Yeah, I'm new here too.

I've been DJing for a couple of years in tech-house, dub-techno, breaks and progressive circles, but have always loved dubstep. A night at FabricLive a few months back was enough to kick me into gear and get on the case.

I'm a complete n00b in Reason 4, but getting there.

wubstep wrote:Thought I'd post in here, try keep it on the DL.

Basically, I have NOOOOOO experience creating music. Nothing. But it's getting really frustrating when I can imagine some great tracks, but don't have the skill to make them.

I've got Reason 4 now...what do I do .

It's definately a bit intimidating. I'd ask for the basics, but I can imagine them being too advance!

How do I even use this program basically? Even if I don't start out making dubstep tracks, just some simple beats for now.

The first thing to do is to understand the basic terms that describe various production tools & techniques.

After that, it really is just a matter of twiddling knobs and reading the manual for whichever programs you choose to use.

As I said though, if you don't know what things are called, you'll struggle to learn how to use various programs.

Buy Computer Music for a couple of months and check out the contents of their cover mount DVD. They explain things simply and generally have good advice on picking up new audio skills and techniques!

futures_untold wrote:

Danny Stamp wrote:Yeah, I'm new here too.

I've been DJing for a couple of years in tech-house, dub-techno, breaks and progressive circles, but have always loved dubstep. A night at FabricLive a few months back was enough to kick me into gear and get on the case.

I'm a complete n00b in Reason 4, but getting there.

wubstep wrote:Thought I'd post in here, try keep it on the DL.

Basically, I have NOOOOOO experience creating music. Nothing. But it's getting really frustrating when I can imagine some great tracks, but don't have the skill to make them.

I've got Reason 4 now...what do I do .

It's definately a bit intimidating. I'd ask for the basics, but I can imagine them being too advance!

How do I even use this program basically? Even if I don't start out making dubstep tracks, just some simple beats for now.

The first thing to do is to understand the basic terms that describe various production tools & techniques.

After that, it really is just a matter of twiddling knobs and reading the manual for whichever programs you choose to use.

As I said though, if you don't know what things are called, you'll struggle to learn how to use various programs.

Buy Computer Music for a couple of months and check out the contents of their cover mount DVD. They explain things simply and generally have good advice on picking up new audio skills and techniques!

Yeh, thought that would be the general answer. Gonna try get a mate to just sit down and explain the extreme basics. Is Reason actually the best program for me to be using, or would FL be more suitable? Or anything else even.

Reason is good because you can see the wiring, just as you would in a real studio. Fruity loops has its pro's and con's, but if your unsure of basic studio routing, then it may be more confusing to learn with.

Both programs can achieve amazing results, but from my experience of sitting with people explaining the extreme basics, Reason is easier for them to get their head around. (because it acts and functions like a real world studio)

The Subtractor synth in Reason is a good example. All the standard synthesis controls are viewable at once. This makes learning basic synth programming easier. The TS404 and 3xosc in Fruity have tabbed windows for each section of controls, obviously making it more confusing if you don't already know what your doing.

If your starting from scratch, I'd recommend using Reason, simply because the visual interface is relativaly logical and follows real world principles.

Using Reason, I'd focus upon learning:

• -->Pluging devices into the main mixer
  -->Learning the basics of synthesis on Subtractor (oscillator wave shapes, ADSR, LFO to filter)
  -->Learning the basics of sampling on the NN-19
  -->Using the Redrum to program basic beats
  -->Using basic effects as either a send or insert (delay, reverb, chorus, phaser, filter, distortion)
  -->Programing midi notes in the sequencer
  -->Automating synth/effects controls in the sequencer

Once you've got your head around that, then almost any other program or even hardware device will make some sense to you!

futures_untold wrote:Reason is good because you can see the wiring, just as you would in a real studio. Fruity loops has its pro's and con's, but if your unsure of basic studio routing, then it may be more confusing to learn with.

Both programs can achieve amazing results, but from my experience of sitting with people explaining the extreme basics, Reason is easier for them to get their head around. (because it acts and functions like a real world studio)

The Subtractor synth in Reason is a good example. All the standard synthesis controls are viewable at once. This makes learning basic synth programming easier. The TS404 and 3xosc in Fruity have tabbed windows for each section of controls, obviously making it more confusing if you don't already know what your doing.

If your starting from scratch, I'd recommend using Reason, simply because the visual interface is relativaly logical and follows real world principles.

Using Reason, I'd focus upon learning:

• -->Pluging devices into the main mixer
  -->Learning the basics of synthesis on Subtractor (oscillator wave shapes, ADSR, LFO to filter)
  -->Learning the basics of sampling on the NN-19
  -->Using the Redrum to program basic beats
  -->Using basic effects as either a send or insert (delay, reverb, chorus, phaser, filter, distortion)
  -->Programing midi notes in the sequencer
  -->Automating synth/effects controls in the sequencer

Once you've got your head around that, then almost any other program or even hardware device will make some sense to you!

Cheers man, gonna try do this properly. Not fumble my way through the program and produce yet more uninspiring wobblers and clutter up the genre with more shit.
I've had a look around, but are there any recommended tutorials/blogs/youtube vids for this basic stuff?

The manual will help you learn the basic controls and routing methods ect. It's fairly well written too, so you shouldn't have to much difficulty.

Synth programing basics - http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... arch&meta=

Midi basics - http://www.harmony-central.com/MIDI/Doc/tutorial.html (although it's a bit dry lol)

Google/youtube production related questions and I'm certain things will pop up...

I learnt about production from reason 4.0 . I've moved on to acid pro now and wouldn't think twice about going back but starting out I wouldn't have even looked at something like acid simply because reason is just much easier to get your head round.