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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:00 pm
by max
ScooterJack wrote:Max wrote:I'm not really into pottery. Bit of a strange one to post in a music forum.
Analogy
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈna-lə-jē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural anal·o·gies
Date: 15th century
1: inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
2 a: resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : similarity b: comparison based on such resemblance
3: correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4: correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin — compare
joke (jōk) Pronunciation Key
n.
Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
A mischievous trick; a prank.
An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
Informal
Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office.
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:13 pm
by scooterjack
your attempt at sarcasm (re: joke) was teh f4ilz0r5
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:48 pm
by DZA
now now ladies
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:24 pm
by beerz
ScooterJack wrote:your attempt at sarcasm (re: joke) was teh f4ilz0r5
made me laugh
Re: Finishing tunes
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:36 pm
by emef
Lowpass wrote:Just saw this on DOA and thought it was interesting
The ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the "quantity" group: fifty pound of pots rated an "A", forty pounds a "B", and so on. Those being graded on "quality", however, needed to produce only one pot -- albeit a perfect one -- to get an "A". Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the "quantity" group was busily churning out piles of work - and learning from their mistakes -- the "quality" group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.
maybe it will be as useful to you as it was for me
haha that is so bang on the money
its always better to try to finish tunes cos so much comes out of it
learning to arrange properly even with an average tune
killer bits can come out of a shite tune
i posted something similar in a doa thread t'other day
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:46 pm
by Genevieve
I work on music every day and I put a ton of effort into it every day.
I've never finished the song I want to finish. I am a perfectionist who has no real quantity to show and I learn from my mistakes. So.. I don't know. I don't think it's very universal, I can see how it rings true, but it doesn't in every case. So yeah, I guess I'm sorta in between.
edit: I practiced production before I sat down to make songs, though.. where does that fit? Like, I'd practice Flashbulb and Venetian Snares type drum programming for months before I sat down to make shit.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:44 am
by r
Mumble wrote:I think Im still yet to actually finish a track ! Ive come close a few times but I only like to finish things that are perfect, I hate creating poor tracks.
I wanna share you something of my 'wisdom'.
"Better is the evil brother of good."
example :
If something is good and you can think it could be better, you will work on it forever and wont finish it, cause it needs to be better everytime over and over again.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:10 am
by Genevieve
R wrote:Mumble wrote:I think Im still yet to actually finish a track ! Ive come close a few times but I only like to finish things that are perfect, I hate creating poor tracks.
I wanna share you something of my 'wisdom'.
"Better is the evil brother of good."
example :
If something is good and you can think it could be better, you will work on it forever and wont finish it, cause it needs to be better everytime over and over again.
Not true, I've done things better than they originally were and they did end up better and I was satisfied.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:12 am
by jonnyrebel
that is great! I find myself working on a couple of tunes a day usually, and There is a marked improvement in production everytime. Creativity goes as far as your mind lets it... It shouldnt be limited by anything!
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:26 am
by emef
Genevieve wrote:I work on music every day and I put a ton of effort into it every day.
I've never finished the song I want to finish. I am a perfectionist
i dont think anyone finishes the song they want to finish
better to be a perfectionist
than some mug who is happy with every note they bang out
but ya have to wave goodbye to these tunes at some point
its music
not rocket science
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:39 am
by Genevieve
emef wrote:Genevieve wrote:I work on music every day and I put a ton of effort into it every day.
I've never finished the song I want to finish. I am a perfectionist
i dont think anyone finishes the song they want to finish
better to be a perfectionist
than some mug who is happy with every note they bang out
but ya have to wave goodbye to these tunes at some point
its music
not rocket science
I was being quite literal when I said 'song I want to finish', it's like one song. Ahahhaha oh wow. I've been workign on it for two months and I've gotten to the point where I don't think it's long enough, but where I can't go anywhere with it either so now I'm doing something completely new.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:44 am
by deadly_habit
making it a habit of finishing all my tunes i start now
going back to old unfinished ideas with old production techniques since you learn more everyday and by making new stuff seems to be a step backwards to me nowadays
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:40 pm
by vaiken
I have a bad habit of just making a lot of short starts...planning to decide later if I should finish them. It happens very rarely that I go back to any of them and arrange them properly.
I will definitely take this tip and try to make every new tune as much of a finished track as possible in the first session.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:30 pm
by lpmovement
wierd im currently in the let do as much as posssible and work somethink good out stage sad to say i probly lack quality...
ooh well spose i got a life ahead of me
mabye taking time is the key to quality
good post
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:29 pm
by ketamine
Genevieve wrote:emef wrote:Genevieve wrote:
I've never finished the song I want to finish. I am a perfectionist
i dont think anyone finishes the song they want to finish
I was being quite literal when I said 'song I want to finish', it's like one song. I've been workign on it for two months .
Thought I was bad
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:23 pm
by scooterjack
Vaiken wrote:I have a bad habit of just making a lot of short starts...planning to decide later if I should finish them. It happens very rarely that I go back to any of them and arrange them properly.
I will definitely take this tip and try to make every new tune as much of a finished track as possible in the first session.
Try when you get a few pieces of the track done, say drums/couple stabs/bit of bass, grab a 8/16/32 bar loop and just roughly lay it out in the form of your track, putting spaces for drops etc.. but just roughly
it makes it easier to come back and add things, rearrange, and refine later.
I usually work for 3-5hrs when i start a track, then 1-3hrs a day over a few more days on that track, and i'll work on 3-4 tracks at a time. I'll get the tracks to a 'demo' quality, then decide what tracks are the most important and get them to a playable/releasable quality first. I've made some great stuff from reworking 2 year old 'demo' tracks
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:39 pm
by delirium_p
Totally agree with this , however sometimes i think that someone can spend to much time on a beat and it sounds worse than what it did before, but they can never get it back to what it orginally was, ( if that makes any sense lol)
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:41 pm
by ketamine
Delirium_P wrote:Totally agree with this , however sometimes i think that someone can spend to much time on a beat and it sounds worse than what it did before, but they can never get it back to what it orginally was, ( if that makes any sense lol)
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:59 pm
by delirium_p
Ketamine wrote:Delirium_P wrote:Totally agree with this , however sometimes i think that someone can spend to much time on a beat and it sounds worse than what it did before, but they can never get it back to what it orginally was, ( if that makes any sense lol)
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Has to be the banger youre working on where you forget to though init
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:03 pm
by scooterjack
Ketamine wrote:
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the key to any kind of project, multiple versions
