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Im lazy and dont wanna carry heavy ass records.

honestly if you are calling serato "difficult to use" then you let the big kids have their toys back and sit back down with your Legos.

It couldnt be any easier to use.

And on a real sound system, NO you cant tell the difference between vinyl and using WAVs with serato...If you tell me you can, then you need to quit stroking your beard, pull your head out of your ass and try to enjoy the music... Elitist Vinyl snobs are totally retarded.

I say embrace the digital age...I put out vinyl for fuck sakes, and I still say embrace digital...let be realistic here...

ac23 wrote:it wud be handy with unreleased stuff coz i cant cut dubs every week out here

Its a perfect solution to put your stuff to work straight away, to gauge reactions & mix levels. I think its the natural evolution of DJ'ing in the 21'st century, digital music has taken over and i dont see why people still dog on Serato djs? And don't give that vinyl support bullshit.
Anyone knows that downloaded mp3s aren't shit for quality and if your mp3s are being downloaded you should be stoked. It means people like your stuff and they will buy your cd or record if they want the best quality.

Dont' use serato (even though I literally work just downt he road from them in Auckland)... use Torq instead, simply because I like the ability to be controlled by midi. much easier to set up (simply plug in, no pass throughs) and in essence its just the same as having a CDJ... just the buttons are in a different place on a midi controller.

That said - the laptop I use is one of those tiny asus ones, so its not like I'm lugging a big hulking thing around with me.

plus it allows you do do really fast mixes, double drops, crazy shit with acapellas, vocals etc that wouldbe a lot harder on vinyl, and sound weird as hell, without the pitching algorithms in software solutions.

I got it the day I realized that I'd never have to pay for music again!!131!!





It was a joke.

Surface_Tension wrote:I got it the day I realized that I'd never have to pay for music again!!131!!





It was a joke.

ban !!

cure wrote:And on a real sound system, NO you cant tell the difference between vinyl and using WAVs with serato...

... assuming you're talking about the exact same thing, i.e. a mastered wav vs. a mastered dub.

Do people actually give it that much thought? It's not like it's a decision tantamount to "Should I give up all my worldly possessions and live in the mountains and become a monk?".

As much as I love DJing and can philosophize about it all day long, at the end of the day, yer just playing tunes, people, not curing cancer.

In other words, who gives a shit? Do what you do and do it well. Tools are tools. The medium is NOT the message.

MikeE wrote:Dont' use serato (even though I literally work just downt he road from them in Auckland)... use Torq instead, simply because I like the ability to be controlled by midi. much easier to set up (simply plug in, no pass throughs) and in essence its just the same as having a CDJ... just the buttons are in a different place on a midi controller.

That said - the laptop I use is one of those tiny asus ones, so its not like I'm lugging a big hulking thing around with me.

plus it allows you do do really fast mixes, double drops, crazy shit with acapellas, vocals etc that wouldbe a lot harder on vinyl, and sound weird as hell, without the pitching algorithms in software solutions.

You can control everything in Serato with Midi as well.


How does that Asus handle Torq though? Was thinking of getting one for Serato to take some of the workload off of my laptop.

dubsola wrote:My biggest problem with the laptop is finding the tunes. Number of times I've thought the next day 'Argh I forgot to play that one!', because it's not right there in my record bag. I can't find the tunes I would consider playing on the laptop, because I associate album art and record labels with the tunes, not the artist name or the name of the tune.

Ah, the human capacity for adaptation is neat. We learned how to use fire and tools AGES ago. I am sure you can figure out how to use the search function and album art view in less than a geological era.

cure wrote:honestly if you are calling serato "difficult to use" then you let the big kids have their toys back and sit back down with your Legos.

yh i know you, your that big dj that uses serato init?

its wak, the process of going to your laptop instead of your bag is odd. i cant explain it anymore. its just odd.

chk theo parrish.

jay wrote:

cure wrote:honestly if you are calling serato "difficult to use" then you let the big kids have their toys back and sit back down with your Legos.

yh i know you, your that big dj that uses serato init?

its wak, the process of going to your laptop instead of your bag is odd. i cant explain it anymore. its just odd.

chk theo parrish.

I think it's great. I don't have to bend over to look through my crate anymore. I don't need to bring a flashlight anymore either.

i'm thinkin about serato but just for mixtapes, would still take vinyl, dub n cds to the clubs.. serato for home use really does appeal to me but i dunno about clubs n that

abZ wrote:

jay wrote:

cure wrote:honestly if you are calling serato "difficult to use" then you let the big kids have their toys back and sit back down with your Legos.

yh i know you, your that big dj that uses serato init?

its wak, the process of going to your laptop instead of your bag is odd. i cant explain it anymore. its just odd.

chk theo parrish.

I think it's great. I don't have to bend over to look through my crate anymore. I don't need to bring a flashlight anymore either.

Ask my pinched sciatic nerve how much I miss carrying a bag of records.

to archive collections digitally
doesn't mean the death of turntablism,
yet.

cure wrote: Ive converted the most snobbiest of snobbs to Serato...

it's true.

i don't ever want to hear anyone speak ill of serato. the only people that DO dis serato are chumps who have spent hundreds (maybe thousands) of dollars on vinyls that a year from now will be sitting in a corner collecting dust. not only is serato financially viable, making djing possible for more people, it also adds a creative element that simply isn't available on vinyl. simply by using loops and cue points, you can manipulate the music in a way that you can't using vinyl. you can skip the wack parts of records and loop the dope parts. also, your mixing can be spot on because of the visual element. in a very short time, serato users become able to read wave forms. you really can't put a price tag on that ability when it comes to mixing AND PRODUCTION.

obviously we all know that vinyl is ideal as far as sound quality. but fuck, guys! i go to school full time, man! who can afford to be droppin mad bills in the record stow if they're in school and shit. why should dubstep only be accessable to the few? it's about the track selection and the mixing right??? i feel confident about my track selection and my mixing and it's all because serato makes anything possible for a a much more sustainable fee.

jay wrote:i bought it and cant fucking bleev that i did, its horrible.
im trying to get used to it but i havnt took it out to a club yet and im not sure i ever will. its crap. it just feels terribly complicated for some reason. in principle i know its the same as records but there's something about it that just doesn't sit right.




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you are a retard. i've never encountered a more user-friendly, intuitive program in my life. that shit is made BY DJs FOR DJs.

cure wrote:honestly if you are calling serato "difficult to use" then you let the big kids have their toys back and sit back down with your Legos.

It couldnt be any easier to use.

And on a real sound system, NO you cant tell the difference between vinyl and using WAVs with serato...If you tell me you can, then you need to quit stroking your beard, pull your head out of your ass and try to enjoy the music... Elitist Vinyl snobs are totally retarded.

I say embrace the digital age...I put out vinyl for fuck sakes, and I still say embrace digital...let be realistic here...

fuck yeah, man.

fooishbar wrote:

cure wrote:And on a real sound system, NO you cant tell the difference between vinyl and using WAVs with serato...

... assuming you're talking about the exact same thing, i.e. a mastered wav vs. a mastered dub.

even then serato has a sound of its own. i dont have the best ears in the world but i could tell you without looking whether someone was using serato in a club if it was a clear sounding system. the extreme lows and the high end give it away.


digital evangelism...