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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:22 am
by blkmsk
fatso and avalon 747 are both dope outboard units for warming up 2 tracks

honestly though ozone does wonders and often 'your favorite track' or whatever is even worked over with ozone

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:23 am
by gimpyj
Brockolio wrote: would love to catch Joker & Gemmy live sometime. US promoters get onnit!! :D
this! hope to see this happen sometime over this summer!

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:44 am
by yong
jokerkhk wrote:
Desire wrote:what the fuck is auto par?
just dont say nothing if ure gana be rude
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:44 am
by T_macabre
the reason tunes werent sounding spot on at fwd last week was due to some mixer issues, only one signal seemed to be coming out of the channel one just one side after serato was set up, absolutely f**k all to do with mastering quality as everything coming out on the other channel sounded boom

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:44 am
by raffia
D+ wrote:that is the sound of hardware and good drum samples for u

tracks are usually mastered by a professional mastering engineer before they hit vinyl

if hes playing tunes off CD he may have mastered them himself but you need thousands of pounds of hardware equipment to get a master sounding amazing. its not possible out of a pc alone... someone will probably come in here and say they can do it - they honestly can't. its just one of those things.
big up hardware everytime



:D

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:05 am
by efa
Seriously though Digidesign sounds soooooo crisp and BIG, whats your secret fam?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:16 am
by joe muggs
Obviously simply good production is a lot of it too. There's nothing mastering can do if the balance and positioning of the sounds isn't right to start with, and clearly that is something that Joker has got nailed... and a lot of that is to do with not trying to push everything up front but allowing some things to sit back and be subtle - it makes the things that DO hit hard work all the more effectively...

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:13 pm
by geiom
Joe Muggs wrote: a lot of that is to do with not trying to push everything up front but allowing some things to sit back and be subtle - it makes the things that DO hit hard work all the more effectively...
dynamics is the 1 !

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:31 pm
by desire
ok then. i think that the song you did 'digidesign' is really good, especially liking the way you kept it so minimal but it still keeps my interest.

music and mixdowns are different things though, all a matter of opinion in my opinion. :twisted:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:47 pm
by tes la rok
joker knws how to tweak EQ and CMPRESSOR. uli TRUTH reppin ! :twisted:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:01 pm
by hanuman
I think Joker's tunes sound amazing to be honest.

They are such a full and heavy sound.

Do it is wicked.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:14 pm
by dubstee
Joe Muggs wrote:Obviously simply good production is a lot of it too. There's nothing mastering can do if the balance and positioning of the sounds isn't right to start with, and clearly that is something that Joker has got nailed... and a lot of that is to do with not trying to push everything up front but allowing some things to sit back and be subtle - it makes the things that DO hit hard work all the more effectively...
You were listening at Corisca, where there is a F1 system I believe... things tend to sound good on them.

Re: hardware/software, there's plenty of decent software compressors, but all the top mastering engineers swear by their outboard. And there aren't that many top mastering engineers, which should tell u something. A good one can make a huge difference to an average mixdown, can't do anything about poor mastering though.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:47 pm
by fused_forces
Jokers tunes are big, which is down to him..... being a sick producer, an having a good ear.

Thousands of pounds of hardware equipment does not make a great producer.

Quote by Liam Howlett of The Prodigy...

“I could sell all of the equipment in the studio tomorrow, i couldn't give a shit about that stuff anymore because all of the new album came from my sample sources and the laptop running Reason and those few pieces of kit I mentioned, which is about as technical as it got — and about as technical as it should get.”

:wink:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:16 pm
by kingcannibal
Fused Forces wrote:Jokers tunes are big, which is down to him..... being a sick producer, an having a good ear.

Thousands of pounds of hardware equipment does not make a great producer.

Quote by Liam Howlett of The Prodigy...

“I could sell all of the equipment in the studio tomorrow, i couldn't give a shit about that stuff anymore because all of the new album came from my sample sources and the laptop running Reason and those few pieces of kit I mentioned, which is about as technical as it got — and about as technical as it should get.”

:wink:
I think that is more about writing rather then producing though. I'm sure all of his stuff goes on to be properly mixed down at plush studios, i seriously doubt Jokers stuff goes any place other then from his hdd to the mastering house.

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:44 am
by paulie
Fused Forces wrote:Jokers tunes are big, which is down to him..... being a sick producer, an having a good ear.

Thousands of pounds of hardware equipment does not make a great producer.

Quote by Liam Howlett of The Prodigy...

“I could sell all of the equipment in the studio tomorrow, i couldn't give a shit about that stuff anymore because all of the new album came from my sample sources and the laptop running Reason and those few pieces of kit I mentioned, which is about as technical as it got — and about as technical as it should get.”

:wink:
He was making much better stuff when he was still using the hardware though tbf.

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:07 am
by joe muggs
Why do the Prodigy's tunes these days sound like some fat Hollywood producer's ideas of what the music in a "bad dudes' club" sounds like?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:35 am
by geiom
its true, you can make the sickest tune on just a laptop and people do.

one day soon you'll be able to do it on your watch while you ride the bus.

not as much fun as using 'inconvenient' hardware tho.

there's too much 'convenience' in the world today.

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:43 am
by monekh
geiom wrote:
there's too much 'convenience' in the world today.

too true

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:46 am
by _boring
geiom wrote:its true, you can make the sickest tune on just a laptop and people do.

one day soon you'll be able to do it on your watch while you ride the bus.

not as much fun as using 'inconvenient' hardware tho.

there's too much 'convenience' in the world today.
i dont think their is too much, people just abuse and when they should be thankful and mindful of it. in general that is.

but ya hardware shit is fun.