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notch wrote: In the master track choose outs 1/2 for cue and 3/4 for master. do this in the preferences also..

I wouldn't advise that. If you do that then you should always be wearing your headphones when previewing sounds in the browser, which is a pain in the ass.



Jason

Johnny Beat wrote:

notch wrote: In the master track choose outs 1/2 for cue and 3/4 for master. do this in the preferences also..

I wouldn't advise that. If you do that then you should always be wearing your headphones when previewing sounds in the browser, which is a pain in the ass.



Jason

UHH.. The only time I would use headphones would be for live performance.. When else would you want to use headphones to preview tracks??
But your the expert here..

You guys are making warping harder than it needs be...

Remember, the bpm is constant for electronic music. You only need one warp marker once you know what the bpm is.

Find the first solid downbeat of the tune. Mark it.
Go to the breakdown, check to see if its still alligned. Mark it.
Go to the second breakdown, or some other major point in the tune about 2/3rds or 3/4 of the way through the tune. Mark it.
Go to the very end of the tune. Mark it.
Look at what the bpm is for the clip. Keep a note of it.
Now, erase all markers but the first one.
Enter in the bpm you found by doing your warps.
Double check it by zooming in on the very end of the tune and making sure its still all lined up.
Make sure you click "Save" in the clip area so you dont have to do it again.

If its a tune with live drumming on it as the main part of the beat, then you have to go in and mark as many warp points as possible.

I suggest using the "Re-Pitch" option for warping when DJing, unless its a drastic change in BPM. It sounds better (less processing) and a bit more like traditional DJing.

Cheers for the help dudes but sadly my sound card is just a cheap USB with 1 output.
Think its about time to invest in another 1. Any recomendations???

Also Kidlogic cheers for the advise on warping, I was warping at every 4 - 8 bars before and it was taking so much time.

playing mp3s in Ableton live is not what I call Djing.

Serox wrote:playing mp3s in Ableton live is not what I call Djing.

twat.

As for warping, drag the no.1 marker to the beggining of the first bar, and then right click on it and select 'Warp from here (140bpm)'

then just go through the tune and drag the markers to match up, you'll see how it works, it's easy once you get the hang of it.

you know, when the first turntable with pitch control was released disc jockeys said it was cheating - because it had adjustable pitch.

doing mixes in ableton live is just as acceptable as in any other way, as long as you don't do a 48 track uber-mix and then pretend you did it manually, who cares?

times change, technology evloves, deal with it, etc

yanski101 wrote:Cheers for the help dudes but sadly my sound card is just a cheap USB with 1 output.
Think its about time to invest in another 1. Any recomendations???

Also Kidlogic cheers for the advise on warping, I was warping at every 4 - 8 bars before and it was taking so much time.

You can still use 2 mono channels from that as far as I know...


Jason

Ableton DJing is the one.

Once you get the hang of Warping, it's a piece of piss, same with anything really!

Get yourself a nice midi controller with lots of assignable controls and you will never look back

they're 2 different beasts. for the sub swara live sets, i use ableton mainly because my pallete of material is a lot broader--- if someone's playing an acapella and sunder's scracthing in a bassline, the 2 of us on ableton can handle effects and drum loops, and prep next sections while the originals are playing. it's doable on vinyl/cd's, sure-- but not to the extent that we can do it w/ ableton.

plus the mappable midi control is stunning.

FWIW hearing 1 run-of-the mill wobble banger mashed (nearly) up against another of the same, held together (barely) for 15 1/2 bars until the drop isn't what i'd call djing either-- but I sure do hear a lot of it.

Hurtdeer wrote:

Serox wrote:playing mp3s in Ableton live is not what I call Djing.

yeah, vinyl beatmatching is a lot more satisfying and fun, but because I'd rather drop my tunes without getting them pressed first, and because a laptop is easier to carry than a box full of vinyls, I'll stick with Ableton.

As long as you're still mixing well, the tracks are beatmatched, and you're doing the transitions nicely, nobody except turntable purists really give a shit what you're doing. Get off your high horse?

Thank you..

Dubstep is a pain in Ableton (compared to other genres) There is an app called mixed in key:

http://www.mixedinkey.com/

that will help you a lot. At first I thought it would be like cheating but the best mixes are the ones that transfer emotion and energy properly not simply staying in key (especially the grimey stuff sometimes even sounds dope out of key)
HOWEVER,
This app will tag folders of your trax at a time with the exact bpm down to two decimal points and the key its in.
1) put your trax in a folder that you want to mix
2) process them in mixed in key (make sure to go down to the two decimal points in preferences)
3) drag a track into live and make a warp marker at the first downbeat.
4) right click at set 1.1.1 here
5) delete the warp marker to the left
6) click back on the marker you made then type in the exact bpm
enjoy