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Even Newcastle was in there! Nice...

I think this is an article to offend not inform.

I'm surprised by the tone of the article as the writer seems to have some involvement in the industry see http://www.musicalbear.com/ and http://www.scandalbag.com/heatwave.html

Perhaps its a hater thing?

"enhanced by melodic hooks worthy of radio-friendly pop"



"white mans reggae" lol

Blackdown wrote:the croydon techno thing related to Plasticman circa the Grime 1 comp on Rephlex in about 2003/4. i think there's a thread on K Punk's blog from that era too.

The stuff I was thinking of seems to have an 0181 code so might be older than I thought. Will A and Giddy - anyone from Croydon remember them at all?

RobJC wrote:I think this is an article to offend not inform.

maybe. I seem to remember them referring to dubstep as "the one reason to go to Croydon."

Surely, the one reason for Telegraph readers to go to Croydon is Ikea. And dubstep fans would be better off heading to Brixton, no?

who wrote this article?

i was looking for the author's name and was gonna email him and tell him a few things, but i couldnt find it.

the article does seem a lil forced. it has this vibe written all over it like "ihatemyselfihatemyselfihatemyself"

surely he's bigging it up throughout the whole article?

i don't generally get involved in this kinda debate, but i read the piece and thought it was fine.

look at the main tagline: 'A new form of dance music from Croydon is ready to conquer the world' - if that aint biggin it up then i don't know what is...

check the rest of the piece - i actually can't find any lazy slagging off, or waste-talk...

what exactly is the problem?

Blackdown wrote:the croydon techno thing related to Plasticman circa the Grime 1 comp on Rephlex in about 2003/4. i think there's a thread on K Punk's blog from that era too.

shocking piece btw

"But picking apart these strands to make sense of its origins can make even trend-spotting music journalists furrow their brows in confusion."

with the above quote he's basically saying he hasn't done his research!

great photo though, glad they're going to the source on that one: Infinite!

Safe!

Personally I haven't got too much of a problem with the piece, I agree with Appleblim that he's generally positive about it all. Also, I quite like the fact that he's admitted to finding it difficult to make sense of rather then trying to act like he's known about it all along. At the end of the day, he is writing for the Telegraph so, his audience is different to the likes of us lot. Also, I think in some places he's actually pretty accurate, some of the vocals samples in the the melodic hooks for example are actually taken from pop tunes!

And on the subject of Croydon- whilst it's not the area to go to listen to the music anymore, it's definitely an area key to the production of the sound (in the beginning at least), although this is something newer dubstep fans might not be so aware of.

Trust me, I've read waay worse then this!! And in publications that definitely should know better!

all press is good press

...says the pr officer lol

consultant if you please dan! i do just think that journalistically you can tear these articles to bits but you can't undervalue them as contributions to getting the sound heard. all about exposure.

my main problem with pieces like this is that there are many people more qualified to write them.

lets face it, most people hearing dubstep are going to be like "lets turn this repetitive rubbish off, where's the melody?!"

or at least that's the reaction of a fair few people to whom i have played the music..

boomnoise wrote:my main problem with pieces like this is that there are many people more qualified to write them.

aren't those people too busy making tunes ?

kinda like the saying "those who can do, those who can't teach"