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MP3, CD and vinyl.

Owning a psychical product has much more appeal then downloading MP3's however Im not going top stop buying MP3's as Ive got CDJ's .

You gotta support the artists though, I loath these people who download music to play out and act like its not a big deal.

i buy vinyl and illegally download

some stuff i'm kinda interested in but not enough to pay for it (unless it turns out to be particularly amazing and then i'll cop on vinyl as well)

also download most stuff i buy on vinyl for my mp3 player and theres no way i'm paying again for stuff i've already paid for on vinyl

still spend probably around £150-200 on records each month (mixture of dubstep/funky/old grime/garage)

I only have 2 vinyl turntables so i can only buy vinyl thinking about investing in a CD deck/ serato but my bank balance has halted those plans

Voted "Just Vinyl" but i still buy untolds of CD's too.

Only ever bought a couple digital tracks, purely cos they werent out on wax an we didnt know the producers to grab a copy over aim

We all about a product ya can hold, standard!!!

I went legit a few months back...it's a bit annoying sometimes as there is so much old stuff you can get from a torrent site...random soundtracks for example or old folk...discogs is good for a lot of it though but often its even too obscure for that...generally i buy cd's, download waves from juno and beatport, buy a record if it's essential and occasionally get something random off rapidshare but i havent done this in a while as all the stuff my mate has linked me too i already bought

stuff like gravious though i will confess i first heard of through S*ulseek in the form of temple ball but now i own all the records and everything in wave format from juno

DMZ not having their stuff available to download are kinda asking for trouble in my book...i got it all off bleep where its been taken down now so anybody wanting the stuff digitally that doesnt know how to a rip a vinyl to sound good is gonna download it for sure illegally.....

this month incidentally i have run out of money due to spending around 50 quid on waves through juno....if i had grabbed the flacs off torrent sites i would be able to eat ...but then it isn't my right to own this stuff and i do at least have a clear conscience knowing that they're gonna get paid so they can eat..

even when i was downloading like crazy through various invite only places i was only grabbing vinyl only stuff dubstep wise and buying all the cds i wanted

djrobyn wrote:

grime suspect wrote:what about tunes u get sent or swap

just leave that out, or is that the only way you get your dubstep tunes?

I have been so broke lately that I only play 320's that are given to me. Luckily I get enough good ones and of course I play my own shite. When I have money I usually grab a few off Juno, Digi-tunes or Beatport.

Piston wrote: this month incidentally I have run out of money due to spending around 50 quid on waves

Don't think its such bullshit that wav/flac files cost more than mp3, I understand that the hosting of the larger files is more expensive, but there must be a way round it.

andrew_t_190 wrote:

Piston wrote: this month incidentally I have run out of money due to spending around 50 quid on waves

Don't think its such bullshit that wav/flac files cost more than mp3, I understand that the hosting of the larger files is more expensive, but there must be a way round it.

Just buy on Digital-tunes whenever possible. These days there are only a handful of dubstep releases that do not come out on there.

Interesting topic Paul!

I buy what I can but most of my music is sent to me. I was very surprised to see how many people download it on the naughty! I've heard you can do it but it is a shame.

Back in the day you had to work for your tunes, normally taking trains/buses to croydon/london, spending the whole day in the shop spending £20 lol! Oh shit I do sound old! Jokes aside it made your collection so important to you as you collected each peice. Downloading shit loads with no effort makes the music not so special imo and is worrying in some ways as to how that will affect the music trade.

/\ agreed, very interesting poll...

Ive pretty much made the switch to digital. just bought a cdj800 mk2 getting another in august but ive been playing out on cd's only for the last 6 months. I buy all my tunes legally and search out good un signed stuff (of which there genuinely is a hell of a lot) as well as being sent the odd gem by wicked producers etc etc...

Quality of vinyl has dipped, that combined with ridiculously held back tunes for someone that dj's every weekend is simply not practical. I dont see any problem with it, i still love vinyl but I cant afford to shell out 40 quid for 5 pieces of wax when I could get the same amount of quality tunes for less than a tenner...

i get a lot of stuff online... blogs, forums, etc... directly from producers... purchase from beatport and addictech..

in some cases I will download illegally if the tune isn't available in digital format. I also tend to use downloads like that to check the whole tune instead of just the 2 minute clips a lot of the sites put up. I've been suprised by some tunes i've paid money for and didn't like because something was in the tune that wasn't in the clip. i'd rather save myself that misfortune and not waste my money by being able to preview the whole tune.

purchase some from good old digital tunes

sometimes dubs from other producers

and on occasion I'll order vinyls off redeye

Jonnyrebel wrote:Quality of vinyl has dipped

Can you expand on this please.

DJ $hy wrote: Downloading shit loads with no effort makes the music not so special imo and is worrying in some ways as to how that will affect the music trade.

This.

I buy loads of vinyl every month, play mostly vinyl but also some unreleased stuff on cd's every now and then.

Never really understood the entire torrent thing with dubstep: when listening to dubstep, I prefer to listen to mixtapes, podcasts, radio shows, lives etc.

So much better to be able to hold the track in your hands on wax

I buy vinyl but then I illegally download my vinyl collection from the internet,

is that still illegal?

Would ripping my vinyl collection to mp3 be illegal?

if so then why would downloading the same things off the internet be wrong?

Lowpass wrote:So much better to be able to hold the track in your hands on wax

I buy vinyl but then I illegally download my vinyl collection from the internet,

is that still illegal?

Would ripping my vinyl collection to mp3 be illegal?

if so then why would downloading the same things off the internet be wrong?

Technically it's illegal I suppose (if you want to be pedantic about it, it's a different format), but I certainly don't have a problem with that kind of thing.

i pirate bare wobblez

Paulie wrote:

Jonnyrebel wrote:Quality of vinyl has dipped

Can you expand on this please.

last time I bought vinyl was the kutz soul jazz stuff, dmz 14 (I will carry on buying everything on dmz and deep medi on vinyl standard) ramp015, deep medi 14, rock da bells promo and all sounded muffled with exception to rock da bells.

Never have I known such inconsistancy when mixing vinyl, I never had that problem when mixing house. Im not sure whether its due to the fact that peoples mix downs are all over the place or whether its the quality of the press or what but something like coki road rage is completely un playable in a club and as much as I love those kutz tunes the mids and tops are almost lost to the low end frequencies.

For me when mixin it has to be tight and flow throughout, this means the top end percussion has to sound the same and the volume shouldnt need ajusting as much as I find myself doing with vinyl.

With cd's Ive found im able to get more conistancy without an overbaring bassy dullness. If I want too I can also edit tunes and get them sounding more consistant then burn the cd off and play them instantly. I cant take a shoddy vinyl and do shit to it

Unfortunately a lot of tunes are still only available on vinyl so my wallet is still going to suffer eventually, dubstep has been looking a lot healthy recently on the release front!

it used to be only vinyl for last 10 yrs, but now we're thinking of Serato for the show as many people are sending their tracks... but for the club gonna keep it all wax

Jonnyrebel wrote:

Paulie wrote:

Jonnyrebel wrote:Quality of vinyl has dipped

Can you expand on this please.

last time I bought vinyl was the kutz soul jazz stuff, dmz 14 (I will carry on buying everything on dmz and deep medi on vinyl standard) ramp015, deep medi 14, rock da bells promo and all sounded muffled with exception to rock da bells.

Never have I known such inconsistancy when mixing vinyl, I never had that problem when mixing house. Im not sure whether its due to the fact that peoples mix downs are all over the place or whether its the quality of the press or what but something like coki road rage is completely un playable in a club and as much as I love those kutz tunes the mids and tops are almost lost to the low end frequencies.

For me when mixin it has to be tight and flow throughout, this means the top end percussion has to sound the same and the volume shouldnt need ajusting as much as I find myself doing with vinyl.

With cd's Ive found im able to get more conistancy without an overbaring bassy dullness. If I want too I can also edit tunes and get them sounding more consistant then burn the cd off and play them instantly. I cant take a shoddy vinyl and do shit to it

Unfortunately a lot of tunes are still only available on vinyl so my wallet is still going to suffer eventually, dubstep has been looking a lot healthy recently on the release front!

One man's bassy dullness is another man's warmth I guess. Things always sound brighter off cd, but that doesn't mean it will sound better in a club.

There's an argument that the manufactured quality of vinyl has declined, for example because it costs more to press thicker records, but any genuine problems with eq and volume are more likely to do with mastering.