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nowaysj wrote:Holy shit. Off ebay for the rnc?

Yep. eBay. I just randomly decided to check prices and was like fuck yes thank you very much take my goddamn money and gimme dat compressor.

I never got Ebay, every time I check it for something it's either all the same price as in shops and often quite a bit more.

Like a Tempest for example, I can get that pre owned, but not used for €1100. All I see on Ebay is $1700 etc..

There are deals out there, but over time, I swear they have gotten fewer and far between. Best deal I ever got was on an emu audio interface that was around 3 hundo, got for 100. The auction closed on halloween evening at like 8. Halloween is the shit here in the states, and everyone parties, kids, adults, pets, the whole nation. I was like the only bid.

But Frag up there, I swear he always gets deals.

You have to watch and have money ready. I see a lot of what AxeD sees as well. Fewer and fewer individuals selling their personal gear on ebay. Its almost exclusively businesses in pro audio gear.

Yeah, I asked this dude about the price of this Marantz four track, and homie was ready to drive to my house and gut me. I do remember when it was musicians dealing with musicians. I sold this guy a really really quality blue microphone from way back in the day, and they sent me like a christmas card 6 months later, thanking me again for the mic... times have changed!

seeing a lot of chatter about the RNC and RNLA in here. i'm looking to expand my gear a little bit into the analog domain, would this be a good start? ideally i'd like something that is good for individual sounds and also decent for an overall mix, and don't know which would be better. i like the affordability of these units, was thinking they would be a good counterpart to the new korg volca series which is something else i'm looking at.

Those little boxes are dope, but compare their sound to some other older more legit hardware. From what I've heard on youtube they don't compare. Especially when you can get minibrutes on the cheap. Will say more later.

Also, do a search here in production for both that compressor and limiter. I asked extensive questions about them several years ago, and some pro producers/mixers/masterererers responded. The RNC is actually relatively clean. It has a supernice mode too which is suitable for groups or the master.

Also check gear slutz for this. There is considerable talk about these units. These plus a gap pre 73:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar09/a ... epre73.htm

I've heard the pre 73 moded, and FUUUK it sounds edgy. It has the magic crispy fuzz.

Just don't fall into the gear slutz hole.

Sorry short for time, will say more later.

no worries man, thanks a lot for the input.

The really nice compressor is a usable workhorse compressor with sidechain input. Its pretty clean to my ear but if you push the regular mode you can get all the grit you want. The super nice mode is pretty amazing. Regular mode for instruments, super nice mode for bus compressor. Rnla leveling amp has more character. ART has some useful compressors as well. Or you can get into moded dbx compressors

Would like to hear more about moded dbx's.

nowaysj wrote:Would like to hear more about moded dbx's.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1300233234

Check out revive audio on eBay. Search Dave Brown mod on gearr slutz.

Yeah snapping up gear on ebay is 3 parts luck, 2 parts patience, and 1 part bankroll. You gotta patrol regularly and keep some cash on hand for any deals that pop up. Most importantly, be able to walk away if the price creeps too high or a bunch of people jump on the bidding. Sometimes you can find a misspelled ad or one with a missing or poor description. A lot of times someone will put something nice up for auction but they suck at making ads so they get no bids. When I find something with potential, I just watch that auction. Not the "watch this auction" feature or whatever, but actually watching it over a few days. You want to keep the profile of the auction low and bid at the last second to eliminate bidding wars.

I got pretty lucky with my Senn HD 595s. They're in perfect condition and had no bids. I think they ended up being $60 shipping included or something insane.

fragments wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Would like to hear more about moded dbx's.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1300233234

Check out revive audio on eBay. Search Dave Brown mod on gearr slutz.

Burr Brown mod. Apologies. ;p

A lot of this vintage DBX compressors are supposed to be THE SHIT, but are very noisy/low headroom. Mods fix these concerns. Even with the mods, they are dirt cheap most of the time IMO.

BTW, if you search 16 channel mixers on eBay there is all kinda shit around 350ish USD (shipping included). Have a look. I dunno what other kinds of options you might be interested in with a mixer. Aux/sends and individual outs for channels cost $$$. FX on mixers are really hit or miss IMO. Though having some reverbs and basic delays is always nice.

I'm going to start building a system like this when I can afford it. Maybe I should sell my Rhodes. That idea pains me though.



But getting into modulars is going to be the perpetual gear lust rabbit hole.

I refuse to get into anything modular for I fear the rabbit hole.

fragments wrote:I refuse to get into anything modular for I fear the rabbit hole.

It is deep and it is lusty.

mks wrote:Maybe I should sell my Rhodes.

Yeeeaaah, go ahead and don't sell your Rhodes.

Boss SP sampler series...SP303? Opinions on 202 or 404sx?

SP303 seems to be the sweet spot between functionality and and lo-fi goodness. Also I know I can sequence the 303 with Maschine, buddy of mine has this set up and working smoothly.

EDIT: thoughts on a piece of hardware that could handle looping 30 second to minute long samples? If price is right, complex editing options aren't needed.

ANYONE that makes beats should have an sp XoX.

Yeah the 303 is durty. But you are talking dinosaur technology, yes, I'd like one. But it is always about sample transfer. Always. I've got an old asr-x pro that is now in pieces after an aborted pad restoration attempt. But that thing had incredible thick sound. I'm a midrange heavy kind of guy and that box was heavy, but fucking hell, scsi file transfers. I'm just not down. Smart media 65mb cards... technology price/value curve is a u. Price is high at introduction, mass production price drops, becomes obsolete, price rises again - often beyond initial prices... Smart Media cards are at that point of absurdity. And one of the problems with smart media, is they are finicky. Some brands work, some don't, different brands at different capacities do and do not work. It is a mess. I've got an mc909 that I really don't use because I've never gotten around to picking up a smart media card.

Now, an old durty machine like that is useful though, an sp 303, a zoom sample track 224, but as a second tier, kind of a specialty item.

And DO NOT GET IT TWISTED: the 404sx is DUUUUURRRTTY as fuck. Yes you can load a perfectly clean 16 bit, 44.1 file on there and play it back and will play back clean... but once you start working in the machine, applying fx and resampling... you are in fucking DDUUUUURRT city. I can't hold down a key long enough for how durty the thing gets. Like imagine a kick hat and snare over some string samples... the kick and snare just smeared, no transient at all left, nothing, just solid mush it is fucking awesome. But it is so durty, I often have to bring that shit back into the comp and recreate the actual drum lines, and then kind of parallel/side chain the drums back into the beats. Do not be affeared that the good child of the bunch is too clean. He is a duuurrty fucker. Did I say duuurrty enough?

And it can be used to trigger clean shit, in fact, it's memory is quite large, so you could do a full on dj set out of the box.

Check these forums: http://sp-forums.com/ good people over there. And if you dig a bit, you will find very dope beats.

Excuse my rabid post, but the 404sx is just so dope.