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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:40 pm
by ozols man
socrates believed in slavery too didnt he?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:40 pm
by umkhontowesizwe
Parson wrote:UmkhontoWeSizwe wrote:i consider myself a pretty open chap but c'mon.......some of the stuff in this thread.....legs are being pulled surely?
whatever. i'm arguing about occult and aliens with people who have never even heard of the north american union.
See, the thing is, the North American Union is documented fact. For better or worse it looks like it will happen at some point in the quite near future. What it aims to accomplish can be debated but it is very real.
There is no concrete evidence of the existence either aliens or 'magick'. There are lots of proponents of theories but nothing more. I can accept the possibility that these things
may exist but it seems like those fond of conspiracies are unable to accept the fact that they may not. That's the difference.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:40 pm
by umkhontowesizwe
ozols man wrote:socrates believed in slavery too didnt he?
and bumming pre-pubescent boys.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:41 pm
by parson
UmkhontoWeSizwe wrote:
There is no concrete evidence of the existence either aliens or 'magick'.
this is just not true whatsover
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:41 pm
by parson
and i am not saying that i believe in magick. i am saying that the elite practice occult rituals in secret.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:43 pm
by parson
but now i will say that i do believe in magick. although i make no attempts to practice it.
check out jack parsons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons
In January of 1946, Parsons, Betty, and Hubbard started a boat dealing company named Allied Enterprises. Parsons put in a large sum of approximately $21,000—Hubbard put in $1,200, and Betty nothing. Hubbard eventually abandoned Parsons and their business plans, leaving a port in Florida with the boat and Betty. It is said Parsons retreated to his hotel room and summoned a typhoon in retribution (i.e. evocation of Bartzabel [2] - intelligence presiding Mars). Legend or not, Hubbard and the ship were washed ashore in a freak storm the same day. A Florida court later dissolved the poorly contracted business, ordered repayment of debts to Parsons and awarded ownership of the boat to Hubbard.
try learning about sir isaac newton too.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:45 pm
by parson
ozols man wrote:socrates believed in slavery too didnt he?
check the labels on your garments and tell me they weren't produced by slaves.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:47 pm
by parson
UmkhontoWeSizwe wrote:ozols man wrote:socrates believed in slavery too didnt he?
and bumming pre-pubescent boys.
Nihilo sanctum estne?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:54 pm
by ozols man
Parson wrote:ozols man wrote:socrates believed in slavery too didnt he?
check the labels on your garments and tell me they weren't produced by slaves.
yeh but that still doesnt deviate from the point
edit: some of ur heroes as well as inspiring u probably had a good hand in influencing the ills in society.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:54 pm
by parson
whats your point? you're smarter than socrates?
you have the credibility to discredit him?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:57 pm
by masstronaut
ozols man wrote:Parson wrote:ozols man wrote:socrates believed in slavery too didnt he?
check the labels on your garments and tell me they weren't produced by slaves.
yeh but that still doesnt deviate from the point
I'd say it doesn't really matter what we think Socrates believed in doing. Knowledge is essentially neutral, it's with how it is being used that we must concern ourselves, no? This really applies today.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:57 pm
by parson
ozols man wrote:
edit: some of ur heroes as well as inspiring u probably had a good hand in influencing the ills in society.
societal ills are caused by corruption, greed, and careful brainwashing.
not socrates.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:58 pm
by ozols man
Parson wrote:ozols man wrote:
edit: some of ur heroes as well as inspiring u probably had a good hand in influencing the ills in society.
societal ills are caused by corruption, greed, and careful brainwashing.
not socrates.
yeh and how do u know that all these people u admire and take their words without question didnt have serious issues and adgendas themselves?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:59 pm
by parson
because i take the time to do the research rather than sitting comfortable on a pillow of doubt.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:00 pm
by umkhontowesizwe
Parson wrote:UmkhontoWeSizwe wrote:ozols man wrote:socrates believed in slavery too didnt he?
and bumming pre-pubescent boys.
Nihilo sanctum estne?
yeah, let's just overlook the fact he enjoyed sex with young boys, beleived in an oligarchy of philosophers and supported slavery.
smarter? maybe not. a more valuable human being? definitely.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:01 pm
by parson
it never ceases to amaze me the lengths people will go to to maintain their comfort level in reality.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:01 pm
by rekordah
Just for the record...
Parson wrote:
you're not making any sense, boy.
Parson wrote:lol lloydnoise and stanton are such idiots lol!!!
Parson wrote:you can fuck off.
Parson wrote:
wouldn't you just love that.
fuck off.
do not talk to me.
do not interact with me.
i do not like you.
Parson wrote:and stop sending me messages about wanting to me my friend too
Parson wrote:run along, the grown ups are talking.
Parson wrote:i'm comfortable knowing you're an imbecile.
Parson wrote:my LIST is of people i do not LIKE
i do not like you stanton
i sent you an email saying to keep my name out of your goddamn mouth.
i didn't send you shit saying you were on a LIST because you don't believe in what i believe.
i do not like you because you're an asshole.
Parson wrote:you're retarded
Parson wrote:
in texas it is legal to beat the shit out of people who provoke you.
Parson wrote:i firmly believe you to be a prick.
Parson wrote:you can fuck off rekorder
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:02 pm
by parson
and i said right up front that if you want to discuss i will discuss. and ihave been discussing. i also said that if you come to provoke me, you can fuck off. all of those responses were reactions to being provoked.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:03 pm
by parson
anyway i did not plan on wasting my day arguing with you people again.
i'd like to wrap this up.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:08 pm
by ozols man
Parson wrote:it never ceases to amaze me the lengths people will go to to maintain their comfort level in reality.
lol listen to urself bro! u dont what people think at the end of the day, so dont even go there. its just sometimes some people dont want to spout nuff shit about what they read/heard on the internet/obscure books. cos essentially ur regurgitating information passed down onto u by figures who were held in high esteem by the very establishment that u oppose. i love mad theories and what not but i personally got more important concerns for things such as where we as a species are actually heading as oppose to where we came from. the past does not matter. its the present that matters, cos theres nothing BUT the present, u dig?