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symmetricalsounds wrote: but the one character that is always guaranteed to make any scene better has gotta be clay davis Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit!

Brother Mouzone is the scene stealer.

"You know what the most dangerous thing in America is, right? N!gger with a library card."

Mouzone's literally the only character I'm not overly keen on, all seems a little bit too contrived to me, definitely the least 'real' or plausible character in there...

firky wrote:

symmetricalsounds wrote: but the one character that is always guaranteed to make any scene better has gotta be clay davis Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit!

Brother Mouzone is the scene stealer.

"You know what the most dangerous thing in America is, right? N!gger with a library card."

he is really good, but pretty minor overall in the 5series so never really comes to mind. when he comes back though and hunts out omar and sends his sidekick into the gay bar, that shit is funny and also see rawls hanging out there. i actually think there is a subplot where rawls either fancies jay or is getting some from jay which is why jay gets away with doing nothing but sitting at his desk reading porn.

murky21 wrote:Mouzone's literally the only character I'm not overly keen on, all seems a little bit too contrived to me, definitely the least 'real' or plausible character in there...

Along with Omar.

I do like them both, but they're definitely a bit far fetched.

murky21 wrote:Mouzone's literally the only character I'm not overly keen on, all seems a little bit too contrived to me, definitely the least 'real' or plausible character in there...

Omar is plausible?

Herc and Carver are very contrived too.

symmetricalsounds wrote: he is really good, but pretty minor overall in the 5series so never really comes to mind. when he comes back though and hunts out omar and sends his sidekick into the gay bar, that shit is funny and also see rawls hanging out there. i actually think there is a subplot where rawls either fancies jay or is getting some from jay which is why jay gets away with doing nothing but sitting at his desk reading porn.

That reminds me, watching the first series and the first few episodes again the other week... am I being stupid but is Bubbles gay? I get the feeling he was in a sexual relationship with that white boy who was beaten up for trying to rip off D'Angelo Barksdale's crew with fake money. Bubbles is indirectly responsible for bringing the whole investigation. Never really occurred to me how pinnacle Bubbles was to this until the other night and it would take love or something like it to bring that kind of vindication out of a person.

Anyway...... has anyone seen this? Things I hate about The Wire:

http://clamnuts.com/things-i-hate-about-the-wire/1584


I agree with this bit:

Number 5: The pub scenes



Okay so the last one was weak but THIS one you have to agree on. I hate when all the police sing The Pogues in the pub. It’s like American Tale or that scene in Titanic where all the loveable Irish rogues are partying to fiddle music. It’s so corny. We get it. ‘Freeborn men of the USA’. Probably partially forgiveable if you consider how many Americans consider themselves Irish and that they think singing The Pogues is what we do.

It makes me cringe. I love The Wire’s smart use of background music so when everybody suddenly starts singing together it’s horrible. HORRIBLE.

But then I do have a problem with Americans who consider themselves as Irish as the peat of the Bog of Allen because their great great grandad died of dysentery on a ship bound for the United States from Belfast Port.

firky wrote:... am I being stupid but is Bubbles gay?

Don't think so. During a NA meeting in the 5th series he goes on about looking lustfully at pretty girls when he was a youngster.

Didn't you feel the bromance between bubbles and that dumb cracker?

Bromance, perhaps. Penetration, I don't reckon so.

firky wrote:

symmetricalsounds wrote: he is really good, but pretty minor overall in the 5series so never really comes to mind. when he comes back though and hunts out omar and sends his sidekick into the gay bar, that shit is funny and also see rawls hanging out there. i actually think there is a subplot where rawls either fancies jay or is getting some from jay which is why jay gets away with doing nothing but sitting at his desk reading porn.

That reminds me, watching the first series and the first few episodes again the other week... am I being stupid but is Bubbles gay? I get the feeling he was in a sexual relationship with that white boy who was beaten up for trying to rip off D'Angelo Barksdale's crew with fake money. Bubbles is indirectly responsible for bringing the whole investigation. Never really occurred to me how pinnacle Bubbles was to this until the other night and it would take love or something like it to bring that kind of vindication out of a person.

interesting theory but i don't think it was like that, if anything i think bubs felt he was responsible for his mate in a father figure kind of way. think he always feels cut up about how his influence has made his mate and got him battered and made him more of a fiend etc...

as for the pub thing, it IS corny but that's how pigs in yank do seem to be especially with all the wannabe irish connection.

I^^ he was green.... bubs was trying to make him brown! Just showing him the way, nothing gay there...... I love that that white guy is Telly from Kids.....

murky21 wrote:I^^ he was green.... bubs was trying to make him brown! Just showing him the way, nothing gay there...... I love that that white guy is Telly from Kids.....

Ha! I'd never made the conection. lol

Bubs aint gay lol

i think its just demonstrating the darker, seedier side of crack addiction; the older, more experienced user schools the understudy.

a lot of its based on real life experiences, I reckon characters like Rawls' are based on real guys, the bit with him in a gay bar was so brilliant, I genuinely believe he's based on a real guy and the writers slotted that in as 'fuck you' to him

haha yeah that was brilliant....now you mention it, got a lot of love for Rawls

"These are for you...."
yeah Simon/ Burns were actually Baltimore crime journalists or something along those lines... apparently a lot of the wire is a great representation of how shit in reality went down in Bmore, probably a reason why it is so good

yup worked on the baltimore sun which is why they based last series there.

if you peeps haven't checked treme yet you NEED to get on that, the amount of sick music on there is untrue. the guys who play bunk and lester freamon feature heavily.

treme's good but i don't find myself getting immersed in it like i did with the wire. it was hard to stop watching episode after episode of the wire but i've been weeks between episodes in treme

slim charles is also in it briefly btw

9 episodes in, loving it.

Never really seen TV like this; so complex, immersive and realistic, good shit.

noam wrote:Bubs aint gay lol

i think its just demonstrating the darker, seedier side of crack addiction; the older, more experienced user schools the understudy.

a lot of its based on real life experiences, I reckon characters like Rawls' are based on real guys, the bit with him in a gay bar was so brilliant, I genuinely believe he's based on a real guy and the writers slotted that in as 'fuck you' to him

Rawls was gay, however. No doubt about that - they made it that quite clear cut. Rawls resented his sexuality and that's why he came across as a cunť.

Remember the mirror scene with Rawls?

symmetricalsounds wrote: if you peeps haven't checked treme yet you NEED to get on that

I like it but I am quite happy to let it meander along unwatched, where as The Wire (and Generation Kill), I'd have to watch.

wubstep wrote:9 episodes in, loving it.

Never really seen TV like this; so complex, immersive and realistic, good shit.

Don't read this thread, man. It's rife with spoliers and stuff you don't know yet.

firky wrote:

wubstep wrote:9 episodes in, loving it.

Never really seen TV like this; so complex, immersive and realistic, good shit.

Don't read this thread, man. It's rife with spoliers and stuff you don't know yet.

That's what a spoiler is you fucking tit, Firky.