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bennyfroobs wrote:thats grim man

ssounds like ur getting bad md :s

nah used to test it using one of those weird kits and it was mandy, just think i overdid it at one point tbh when i got some shit stuff which was probably bzp it was a better high lol

Laszlo wrote:

gwa wrote:

Laszlo wrote:I'd be interested to hear the opinions of the SN coke users on the tens of thousands of people murdered in central/south America and the Caribbean because of the cocaine trade.
Does it not bother you that you're funding abject misery?

Just asking.

there is misery in a lot of trades where it's sourced from third world countries.

hell, even everyone's precious 420 is subject to vietnam grow houses, where people are brought over with the promise of a new western life, and then kept as slaves 24/7 threatened with death if they don't maintain the plants.

Thanks for the reply, albeit entirely unsatisfactory.

look, there's blood on coke for sure and yeah it's sad. but there's always going to be a demand because its one of the top 2 most used drugs in the world.'

if we're going to play the moral game, why are you paying taxes to a country that's in a phoney war?


we live in a shit world.

that was rhetoric btw

I don't see why you're getting so defensive or why you're trying to change the subject to weed and wars (If I had a choice of where my taxes were spent don't you think I wouldn't have it spent on war. Taxes = no choice. Chang = choice).
I just wondered how you square it away with your moralistic/philosophic world view. 'yeah it's sad' covers that.

because its an indulgence.

it can't be justified.

I don't live on the stuff, maybe do it once a month at best these days. But yeah I guess I don't really think about it, in the same way I don't think about a chicken having a shite life when I eat a chicken nugget. Idk the in & outs of it, but I do know that most the things we consume in the west and their disproportionate low prices depend on basically exploiting the third world. It's an uncomfortable comfort we've all got used to and are basically all guilty of.

On the funding misery point, I get it to a degree, but I don't think sniffing a bit of powder is a direct correlation to someone getting murdered from a deal gone bad, I don't directly effect their actions and choices. Isn't it a bit like paying into a pension fund or other investment (maybe they invest in arms and tobacco) and saying you're responsible for murder and cancer.

To sum up, I'm not over the moon about it, but the lack of knowledge/massive distance between me and any problems it causes don't make it obvious enough for me to go, NA no chang. But you have made me think about it, so I guess that can only be a good thing.

This really wasn't an attack on you or anyone else, gwa - It was just a general curiosity as to how it sits with you. I cause my fair share of misery too.... can that really be avoided when you live in the west?

Just seen Dave's post as I went to post this ^
Yeah I definitely agree that our (in the west) happiness, through whatever product it may be, is somewhat dependant on some poor sod's misery in some far away country so i'm not trying to be Mr. moral warrior for the internet, or even trying to change people's habits, just really wondered if people were A. aware of what it takes for cocaine to get here, and B. if they did, how does it sit with them.
"I don't think sniffing a bit of powder is a direct correlation to someone getting murdered from a deal gone bad" Yeah, it's not really a question of deals gone bad. Cocaine is big, big money in central america. That money controls everyone from the farmers all the way up to the government in some/most/maybe all cases (inb4 i'm accused of being a conspiracy theorist again). Ever heard of a drug cartel? Well as they vie for position and power over the drug trade tens of thousands of people are murdered in the process (not, like, every year but it's a LOT). Not just rival cartel members but people that will speak out against them, their wives, their children... 'civilians'.

Here is some of the lovely things that happen in Mexico alone because of coke WARNING: VERY NSFW AND EXTREMELY HARROWING - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mexic ... 66&bih=638

most people that ask that question usually come across as a naked attempt to highlight someone's cuntyness.

yeah i'm fully aware, but i enjoy it.

fair enough, sorry if you thought i was being defensive.

No worries, George.

Has the young echo album sold out already??

PinUp wrote:Has the young echo album sold out already??

Nope. http://www.normanrecords.com/records/14 ... ho--nexus-
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/view ... p?id=43729

Cheers man!! Gonna wait for the new Author vinyl to turn up before I place an order I think..

Mason wrote:

bennyfroobs wrote:thats grim man

ssounds like ur getting bad md :s

nah used to test it using one of those weird kits and it was mandy, just think i overdid it at one point tbh when i got some shit stuff which was probably bzp it was a better high lol

oh yeh iodene or something? i never bother :< just taste test. shoild probably get one from soemwhere. safety first. u kno where i can procure one?

and that sucks man :[ similar thing happened to some of my frien ds at xmas this year, a l oad of them got some wack mandy adn like 5 people went super-west and started chundering everywhere for ages. two of three of em went to hospital cos they were going super-mega-west. it was cut with loadsa bicarb soda+speed apparently. made em all fizz like panda pops
that put a few of em off it for long time.

http://www.eztestkits.com/en/ez-testing ... esting-kit

this is the one i used to have

taste tests are pretty pointless as most amphetamines have a similar taste

Room 1 CZ
23h - 00h BTK
00h - 01h Matrix
01h - 03h Ed Rush b2b Optical
03h - 04h Audio
04h - 05h Optiv


Room 2 BZ
24h - 05h Marcus Intalex b2b Calibre

hrm not the easiest choice :s

marcus b2b calibre

first world problems up in here.

Sniff sniff, my mandy isn't that good, sniff sniff.

i think i get the peng de la peng of mandy

wish i could say the same for chang, paying like £70 for good stuff

pretty good drugs in sa

Agent 47 wrote:i think i get the peng de la peng of mandy

wish i could say the same for chang, paying like £70 for good stuff