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Hi everybody!

I was listening to this Lapalux track:

and I'm il love with that bass.
Especially in the first part when is almost by itself.
The thing is, it sounds like a stereo sub, with reverb. Seems super-wide and super-deep.
If i try to pull off something like that in my mixes all I get is muddy/booming bass and the mix goes to hell.
I'd try to split the signal, with a dry mono sub + reverb and stero stuff on the higher frequencies... but there are no mid/high frequencies!
I can't wrap my head around it!
Can you guys help?

Two questions:
Soundcloud
One: the vibrato lead second thing after the drop.
Two: the kinda deep comb filtered sounding "wow" thing at around 0:57. funtcase uses it sometimes as well

Any tips on jokers really warm, kinda detuned bass? It sounds like it's just detuned saw-waves and a good use of compression but i've got no real pointers. I'd like to know how he gets that sorta sound, no luck so far. If anyone wants to give a few ideas that'd be cool, i'm using Massive!

Thoughtcrime wrote:

Any tips on jokers really warm, kinda detuned bass? It sounds like it's just detuned saw-waves and a good use of compression but i've got no real pointers. I'd like to know how he gets that sorta sound, no luck so far. If anyone wants to give a few ideas that'd be cool, i'm using Massive!

yep, i think that's how it's done!
in massive try having the 3 osc on saw waves, slightly detuned, and one of the three one octave higher than the other two.
lowpass, or daft filter, with no resonance and cutoff almost all the way open (let's say 3 o'clock).
in the voicing tab turn up the number of voices, unisono 3 should be enough for this (watch the volume here), make it monophone, with legato triller, turn on pitch cutoff and move the slider VERY slightly, turn on pan position to make it very wide.
add a dimension expander and you should be pretty close!
then on another instance of massive make a sub bass (mono) with just a sine and play them together.

hope it helps!

mmoloch wrote:

Thoughtcrime wrote:

Any tips on jokers really warm, kinda detuned bass? It sounds like it's just detuned saw-waves and a good use of compression but i've got no real pointers. I'd like to know how he gets that sorta sound, no luck so far. If anyone wants to give a few ideas that'd be cool, i'm using Massive!

yep, i think that's how it's done!
in massive try having the 3 osc on saw waves, slightly detuned, and one of the three one octave higher than the other two.
lowpass, or daft filter, with no resonance and cutoff almost all the way open (let's say 3 o'clock).
in the voicing tab turn up the number of voices, unisono 3 should be enough for this (watch the volume here), make it monophone, with legato triller, turn on pitch cutoff and move the slider VERY slightly, turn on pan position to make it very wide.
add a dimension expander and you should be pretty close!
then on another instance of massive make a sub bass (mono) with just a sine and play them together.

hope it helps!

Just come back from playing around with it to post my results and you've pretty much hit me back with EXACTLY what i did, so that's wicked man, thanks a lot and yeah, for anyone reading this and wanting the same sorta sound, my advice would be to put the cut off on the low pass filter to 11 o clock and get a macro knob on it and drag it to full, then you can control the presence of it accordingly.

Cracked it!

mmoloch wrote:Hi everybody!

I was listening to this Lapalux track:

and I'm il love with that bass.
Especially in the first part when is almost by itself.
The thing is, it sounds like a stereo sub, with reverb. Seems super-wide and super-deep.
If i try to pull off something like that in my mixes all I get is muddy/booming bass and the mix goes to hell.
I'd try to split the signal, with a dry mono sub + reverb and stero stuff on the higher frequencies... but there are no mid/high frequencies!
I can't wrap my head around it!
Can you guys help?

Sounds like it has some sub harmonics on it as well, these kind of subs can be hard to get without the right synths IMO, razor from NI is probably your best bet, if you don't have that try plugins like waves maxxbass they can help Add loads of chorus to it or something :L

Earjax, thank you!
Sub harmonics! I didn't think about that! I don't have Razor or Maxxbass, but razor is actually pretty tempting at that price.
At the moment I'm making most of my basses in FM8 and I'm thinking that there's got to be a way to generate those frequencies with fm synthesis, I'm gonna have to do some studying in psychoacoustics!
Anyway, by making all those low frequencies stereo, won't I lose presence/focus in my bass?

Actually fm8 could be a good bet, you might have to do some wierd things like morphing the sound for instance but if you keep a lowpass on the effects chain you could keep an eye on the sub whilst mucking around, I'm interested so I'll have a go myself and post results later
EDIT: After ten minutes of fiddling didn't work Possibly because I'm shit with fm8 possibly because it can't do it

Anyone have any idea how to achieve the sound at 1:06-1:08? I'm pretty stumped.

Ink Eyes wrote:
Anyone have any idea how to achieve the sound at 1:06-1:08? I'm pretty stumped.

how to make that tune: just bitcrush the fuck out of everything

Rymphony wrote:

Ink Eyes wrote:
Anyone have any idea how to achieve the sound at 1:06-1:08? I'm pretty stumped.

how to make that tune: just bitcrush the fuck out of everything

Not really seeing how bit crushing achieves that one noise used only a handful of times through the tune.

Posted it in the Dungeon Sound thread, but might as well post it here too:
Does anyone know how to get the sort of wobbles that Soap Dodgers use in their tracks?
Like this one, at 0:55:


And again, this one, at 0:55:


And also this at 0:55:

_Vermin wrote:Posted it in the Dungeon Sound thread, but might as well post it here too:
Does anyone know how to get the sort of wobbles that Soap Dodgers use in their tracks?
Like this one, at 0:55:


And again, this one, at 0:55:


And also this at 0:55:

Filtering is definitely z-plane, try a bandpass and a lowpass with envelopes on cutoffs and mix 1-2 (see dungeon sound thread if you don't know abuot z-plane). Waveform sounds like a saw possibly pwm, if those don't work, maybe try deep throat or carbon or something as well. For distortion I wouldn't recommend much, possibly some a little tube saturation. Then compress heavily, lowpass and highpass, EQ, make a separate sub, voila.
Probably won't be the exact sound soap dodgers have, but you'll at least have a similar dungeon growl/wobble

Ok so the sound that I've been trying to make is actually not in a dubstep track but in a hiphp track by portformat

It's the bassline that appears first at 0:24 and plays throughout the song.


It doesn't sound all that complicated, just a polyphonic sound lowpassed but it just sounds so analogue (maybe it is) and fat. Anybody have any ideas on how to achieve something like this?

I've been wonder how this sound is made:
The 'Bruuhh' gritty, dirty sound that hits rite at the start and continues thru the track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdBUL9r2 ... re=related

Thx.

Now before anyone goes an bash me for posting a skrillex example in this section, I came to say I want to learn a melodic synth in his drop, not the basses

it's the cool melodic sound at 0:59-1:00, it goes like "daaaa du du dun.. du du dun..."
anyone know how to? it's a nice sound effect, sounds like an alarmish detuned sound

Ink Eyes wrote:

Rymphony wrote:

Ink Eyes wrote:
Anyone have any idea how to achieve the sound at 1:06-1:08? I'm pretty stumped.

how to make that tune: just bitcrush the fuck out of everything

Not really seeing how bit crushing achieves that one noise used only a handful of times through the tune.

All the sounds in this tune sound pretty simple, should be able to pick them up with a bit of practice on massive. And half of it does sound bitcrushed, I recommend using decimort as your bitcrush unit as it just sounds so much cleaner than any other plug

Back again.
Wobbles starting at 0:55, I really am stumped with this one, but it seems so easy.
Any help at all?

focus on getting the full sound before putting a down ramp on a lowpass with a little resonance. They do play at some points, kinda sounds like a really thick deep throat oscillator, or some pwm waves. Try messing with, some phase and some frequency shifter as well, you can get some fucking wierd sounds with that and saws.

How do i make the synth string sound in the intro?