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pkay wrote:

magma wrote:

pkay should've wrote:The us is mire violent because.... we're a society obsessed with its own amazingly glorified beginnings, most of the events of which were gun related. The good guy always wins in an American gunfight, God makes it so; for America is the anointed Land of the Free, but only thanks to the Brave gun-toters. This is an improvable fact.

England mad we took their self centered mindset and did it a bit better? We are our fathers son

A little bit, sure, but you left home a long time ago... the important part is you have a clear and verifiable story for your Nation's beginning. When a Nation's birth is so well recorded, the people find it hard to truly move on - there's a narrative running through American culture that the way things were at the time of the Founding Fathers is the way things should be forever - and that includes the gun violence. America was won down the barrel of a gun... and through hunting and genocide (no moral snark, we did terrible things) it was tamed down the barrel of one, too. In the 1700s and 1800s, America was a very dangerous place indeed... guns were as necessary as they've ever been... but you've been civilised for centuries now, it's time to let go of some of the old ways.

The concept of "England" goes back into Neolithic times and can be argued to be centred on any number of traditions, but our most ingrained myths, the ones that produce much of the national psyche tend to heroise people toting bows and arrows, swords or tournament lances... Robin Hood, King Arthur, Boudicca, Richard I, The Black Prince.. even our more modern war überheroes (Nelson, Wellington etc) are more associated with ship-mounted canons than rifles and pistols - weapons the common man couldn't and still can't really aspire to unless they join the Army. Our heroes, largely Medieval and many probably entirely made up (Robin Hood, King Arthur) take on a sort of fantasy life with their ceremonial weapons and dogged devotion to chivalry, romance and piety... they're sort of superheroes that you don't really believe were real, Robin Hood and King Arthur get stowed in the same childhood box as Luke Skywalker.

Most of the founding heroes of America had guns by their side and have their exploits recorded relatively accurately for posterity - there's no argument when you have the facts; the gun was central to securing American freedom and so it is kept central to the American psyche today. Even the names of the gun manufacturers are lionised - Smith & Wesson still trades off it's Wild West image (myths of criminals, vigilantes, law-enforcers and savage natives sold in equal measures)... you too can enjoy the Land of the Free, but only if you're Brave enough to fight for your share and protect it with deadly force. I'm sure most Englishmen would love to have a suit of armour at home and a broadsword with their family isignia hanging from their waist, but it's not a terribly practical way to roam the streets... if only we'd been through the Cowboy phase... we could feel like true Patriots by having a handgun concealed in our elasticated trousers too.

pkay wrote:

Kochari wrote:

fractal wrote:'cept for wanka, he is beautiful!


come on now, all you lot talk about how fat americans are, lets not ignore the other elephant in the room

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, chronic obesity is a fact

Yeah but you can fix fat on a treadmill. There's no gym for ugly

Plastic surgery? C'mon you guys must know all about it

http://www.surgery.org/sites/default/fi ... arison.pdf
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... y-medicine#_

magma wrote:I'm sure most Englishmen would love to have a suit of armour at home and a broadsword with their family isignia hanging from their waist, but it's not a terribly practical way to roam the streets... if only we'd been through the Cowboy phase... we could feel like true Patriots by having a handgun concealed in our elasticated trousers too.

Well said

Dont think the Spanish women will appreciate being put in the same group as Scottish

fractal wrote:'cept for wanka, he is beautiful!


come on now, all you lot talk about how fat americans are, lets not ignore the other elephant in the room

Yep, don't get it when people from the UK play on the fat american thing. You've only gotta walk on the streets for a few minutes to see that fat fucks are the majority here too.

garethom wrote:

fractal wrote:come on now, all you lot talk about how fat americans are, lets not ignore the other elephant in the room

Yep, don't get it when people from the UK play on the fat american thing. You've only gotta walk on the streets for a few minutes to see that fat fucks are the majority here too.

Perhaps you should round them up into movie theaters and blast teh fuck out of them?

The shooter did it to start a useless argument about US v UK on dubstepforum.
So you're all giving him what he was going for all along.

heh i'm enjoying that those naturalnews conspiracy theory guys are eating their words now seeing that the guns and gear he used were easily purchasable on a college loan payment
apparently people can't believe there are just plain smart crazy people out there

Homie looked helluv drugged at his appearance.

yea he looked sedated as fuck

garethom wrote:

fractal wrote:'cept for wanka, he is beautiful!


come on now, all you lot talk about how fat americans are, lets not ignore the other elephant in the room

Yep, don't get it when people from the UK play on the fat american thing. You've only gotta walk on the streets for a few minutes to see that fat fucks are the majority here too.

bollocks and you know it

Terpit wrote:http://thechive.com/2012/07/25/good-guy ... -4-photos/

I fucking love Bale. He's just jumped a few points on my man crush meter

Still way behind McConaughey though.

wub wrote:

Still way behind McConaughey though.

Not turned off by his awful acting?

southstar wrote:

wub wrote:

Still way behind McConaughey though.

Not turned off by his awful acting?

The man is an utter dude. He gets paid ridiculous amounts of money to not act very well and basically just look handsome/ripped for money, and occasionally has some gem roles (Sphere, Killer Joe etc)

i sort of find it funny that this will be the legacy of the batman movie, how every single new source (every one!) had mentioned it as the Batman shootings or mentioned BATMAN in the headlines as opposed to "aurora" or "theatre". 3 years down the line, these will be remembered as the Batman Shootings.

idontreallygiveashit wrote:i sort of find it funny that this will be the legacy of the batman movie, how every single new source (every one!) had mentioned it as the Batman shootings or mentioned BATMAN in the headlines as opposed to "aurora" or "theatre". 3 years down the line, these will be remembered as the Batman Shootings.

Except, bizarrely, Wikipedia...which makes no mention of the film whatsoever;

- A gunman kills 12 people and injures 58 others during a midnight film screening in the U.S. state of Colorado.

From their "In The News" shoutbox.

garethom wrote:

fractal wrote:'cept for wanka, he is beautiful!


come on now, all you lot talk about how fat americans are, lets not ignore the other elephant in the room

Yep, don't get it when people from the UK play on the fat american thing. You've only gotta walk on the streets for a few minutes to see that fat fucks are the majority here too.

They discussed this on the radio the other day.
Basically saying that the British are in fact fatter.
He also said the british staple diet is Chicken Tikka Masala bought from Tescos.

How true are any of these statements?

edited: off topic

Electric_Head wrote:

garethom wrote:

fractal wrote:'cept for wanka, he is beautiful!


come on now, all you lot talk about how fat americans are, lets not ignore the other elephant in the room

Yep, don't get it when people from the UK play on the fat american thing. You've only gotta walk on the streets for a few minutes to see that fat fucks are the majority here too.

They discussed this on the radio the other day.
Basically saying that the British are in fact fatter.
He also said the british staple diet is Chicken Tikka Masala bought from Tescos.

How true are any of these statements?

Not just Masala, some poeple buy the korma. The fatter part isn't true