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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:31 pm
by duck
I thought the bass sounded fine, but the mid/treble coming from the hung speakers at the back was a bit ragged and painful sometimes.

great night though..

funny seeing myself in one of the photos that's been posted with my "oh-my-god-that's-a-bassline" face (somewhere between joy and disbelief) on......

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:23 pm
by mr. messer
what happened at DMZ. i dont remember a ting. my arms and legs were achin from shiftin four tonnes of pick-axed concrete from some HENCH yard into a HENCH van with some broken wheelbarrow and i left at 2.30.

deeply regret it.

n-type and dmz were fookin sick tho. i used to think ironsoul are gay tunes for gay sweet boy gay boys. last night right old changed my mind.

penis colada!

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:55 pm
by grievous_angel
Hazmonkey wrote:Those are some of the most highly respected sub's in the business: Nexo S2.
I'm ashamed to say thatI don't know them but i will ask around (to cover my ignorance!)
Hazmonkey wrote:To be fair, it is quite old technology and they have been getting a battering for many years. If you heard any squared off waves from clipping I would like to hear about it, as far as I know the gain structure was running a bit hot but well within its limits.please get back to me, all comments are welcome!
Big up for asking for feedback. Lets put it in context - it was a great sounding system overall, I'm comparing it with the best. However, to my ears it sounded like there was lots of clipping during Mala and Loe's set, somewhat beyond what you'd expect from a big deep reggae system. In contrast it was much quieter and a bit less deep (IMO) during Kode9's set, but with much less distortion. Skream seemed quite a bit cleaner but just as loud as DMZ. As a comparison, when Mala played Sheffield, in a slightly smaller room over a reggae system it was less distorted, and the sub bass seemed deeper with richer harmonics. Also, Iration Steppas' system is IMO louder and clearer than either with vastly richer sub-bass - still chest-rattling, still with some nice low-end sizzle and with the kind of low end you can go and live in, but without clipping.

Just to set my comments in context, I noticed on the Faith forum that Simon Haggis from Whistlebump, who is a lover of loud bass and a bit of a system geek, thought the system was a bit rough, dirtier than the 3rd Base one.

I'm aware that I'm splitting hairs a bit here, so don't take this as being critical!

paul.meme

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:04 pm
by deapoh
I loved the system. It probably was clipping etc but I was too hammered to remember a thing about that. Meditating on the bass was the highlight nothing can beat leaning on those speakers.!

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:25 pm
by bobbly wob
All i can say is when i first arrived there were about 20 people inside+it sounded lush in the middle,lots of space n-type was tight as fook... :D

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:41 am
by bunzer0
Deapoh wrote:Meditating on the bass was the highlight
indeed !

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:34 am
by cogent
Hazmonkey wrote:
Junior Top wrote:re the heavy security - some bods mentioned it already, but imo it's all about the fridge gettin busted - probably gonna lose it's licence now - www.djmag.com/clubbing050.php . if you own a club in brixton, at the moment you are gonna be telling security to come down hard on the naughtiness....
This is exactly the case, I am tech manager at Mass and we are getting a fire storm of shit from the police at the moment; three venues have been closed over the last month in Brixton for drug related issues. I urge all you happy, mental ravers to respect our difficult possision, security are gonna get pissed off if everyone they ask to be more descreet ignores them completely.

!

Ok fair dues, the fridge got raided so security was doing there job... So why were some people walking around with joints in their mouths or behind their ears which was pretty blatant and others were kicked out no questions?

If there gonna do a job, you gotta treat people the same cos this gets some people agro.. If it’s a no green policy that needs to apply to everyone.. Most security guards are just doing a job, these were complete stnuc...

Even so it didn't spoil my DMZ, everything else (apart from a few to many rewinds) was on fire as normal.. The only reason i mention this again is cos I’ve seen security guards really fuck nights up.. There's never been any trouble at dmz, but i can see if security act like this in future people will start to get vex'd.. Once some people get in this frame of mind its not just security they wanna fight but anyone around them... getting security to JUST do their job is no problem, speaking and treating you like a piece of shite is...

PEACE

I'll say it again tho... shouts to mala, loe, all dj's and everyone involved for putting on yet another wicked dmz.. see ya on the 8th July..

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:45 pm
by duck
Iration Steppas' system is IMO louder and clearer than either with vastly richer sub-bass
that's what I'm comparing it to in my head as well.

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:57 pm
by hazmonkey
Cogent wrote:
Ok fair dues, the fridge got raided so security was doing there job... So why were some people walking around with joints in their mouths or behind their ears which was pretty blatant and others were kicked out no questions?
The point has been raised, hopefully things will be better next time. I should point out that the DMZ crowd are definately safe as, we want to keep you lovely people happy!

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:16 pm
by hazmonkey
Batfink wrote: It certainly didn't come near the exceptional Dissident system which i heard in the Black Swan at Subloaded 1.
:s:
Where is this? Do you know what rig it is?




Im surprised to hear all this talk about the rig, you guys are an unusually knowledgeable crowd and you have obviously sat in front of some major equipment. I have heard the Iration steppas rig in the Brixton Recreation center and yes, it sounds incredible, it is also about three times the size of ours (litteraly) and will naturaly produce a more effortlessly phat sound.

I have a few ideas I'm gonna try in an attempt to make it better for next time. I never get feedback, this is good for me, all comments are welcome!

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:47 pm
by corpsey
As far as I'm concerned, I can still hear things that make sounds, therefore I'm unhappy with the rig at DMZ. I now have no use for the sixteen rolls of bog paper I bought with the intention of wiping blood from my ears.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 12:02 am
by step brother
about the security....
I can understand clubs where there are lots of heads getting mashed on pills and other class having heavy handed bouncers and attracting attention from the law like the fridge but putting all this effort into kicking out people blazing zutes seemed out of place and the result of a reactionary and innaccurate response, the security were by far the most aggressive poeple there and as said before seemed more likely to instigate a situation.

I do understand however that it's the council/police etc etc and not just mass management. I'll just keep it a bit more ninja stealth I suppose.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 12:25 am
by alex bk-bk
what do they care what drug you're taking, if its illegal its a problem for the club innit

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 7:36 am
by [b]racket
Step Brother wrote:but putting all this effort into kicking out people blazing zutes seemed out of place
Its illegal for a start.

We all know places that we can blaze but...

Maybe we wont be smokin in any clubs soon...

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 7:38 am
by [b]racket
Argh ignore me.

I sound like someones dad.

:lol:

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:22 am
by grievous_angel
Hazmonkey wrote:I have heard the Iration steppas rig in the Brixton Recreation center and yes, it sounds incredible, it is also about three times the size of ours (litteraly) and will naturaly produce a more effortlessly phat sound.
That's a fair point - it's huge (and has been tuned for a very long time). In Sheffield they usually play the Everyman Centre - which is about the size of a school hall, maybe a quarter the size of the Rec. It sounds like the whole universe is vibrating in there. http://blog.grievousangel.net/?p=172

You should still be proud of your rig though. Especially in the middle of the room, it had a lot of clarity, chest-caving power, and seismic depth. We're comparing it with some of the best systems in the world - not just Steppas but Body and Soul, Shelter, Plastic People etc. - and while your rig might not ultimately be quite as good as them, it's in the same ball park, and that's pretty good.

Big up for seeking feedback!

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:47 am
by alex bk-bk
i thought it stood up against plastic people, and i dont say that easily

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:08 am
by elgato
In terms of feedback, I wasnt at this dmz so can't say comparatively, but I know that the best systems Ive heard are

Dissident - a squat rig from Bristol, built by people who just love the party, they put on various warehouse/outdoor parties when they can, aside from doing hire out (such as the Subloaded already mentioned). An absolutely top bunch of lads, if you wanted to contact them about spec and such Im sure they'd be happy to talk to you... http://www.dissident-faction.co.uk/

Plastic People - Ive heard its Funktion One, I dont know for sure, but it is sooo good. But they have the massive advantage of the size and shape of the room, by setting up as they do in such a confined space, it is much easier to create the immersive sound that they do

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:48 am
by spooky
im gettin depressed at the fact that im missin out.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:53 am
by bunzer0
SPOOKY wrote:im gettin depressed at the fact that im missin out.

be positive, think abot the 8th of july ;-)