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55stevieboy2010 wrote:YEP! keep the fucking word. that way hopefully people will start calling the heavy shit that and leave us real dub heads with the proper name of dubstep.

LOOK ITS SIMPLE...BREAK THE WORD DOWN, THERE IS NO DUB IN HEAVY DUBSTEP. THIS MAKES THE WHOLE TERM INACCURATE. TEAROUT IS NOT DUBSTEP!!!

First off, I don't give a damn what the genre of music I like is called. You could call it "Im a cigarette" and I would still listen to it. My favorite music is hip hop, look at that name... it sucks ass. The name dubstep sounds like the description of how a retarded person walks... Call it bro step all you want. But don't get sour just cuz "your", (as if you produce anything of value yourself) genre is having its boundaries pushed. If everybody thought like you did than the only kind of music out would be classical music; and anytime anybody strayed slightly from that people would say "nooooo, that's not classical, it has to be the way I see it". No disrespect to classical music because I love it, but you can thank the people who pushed different genres forward for the fact that you have so many musical choices today. And to people blaming America for it, pretty sure the UK has "brostep" on lock with guys like feed me, flux, doctor p, rusko, even skream nowadays is making it.

Hyoscine wrote:

fractal wrote:

NilsFG wrote:

Hyoscine wrote:

fractal wrote:Nah buddy. Before it had a name, dubstep came out dark 2step. At the time 2step/garage had a lot of vocals in them. The dub in dubstep refers more to it's instrumental nature than any connection with dub music. Dub meaning instrumental (similar to version). True story

Naw there's definitely a connection. Read the first paragraph of the wiki page on dub music and tell me that doesn't sound like what El-B, Horsepower, etc. were doing in 2000.

Because wikipedia is the source for all your music history.

The only people I know who could, maybe, give you a clear and correct answer are the people at Ammunition, Soulja, Youngsta etc.
Maybe Horsepower Productions, according to many many sources, "dubstep" was first used in a cover-story about them in XLR8R (issue 60, 2002).

Exactly. Don't use wiki as a guide for anything as just anyone can use it. Read the xlr8r interview and do some digging. I'm not chatting air on this one. Dubstep didn't even have dub stylings until 2005-2006, when it was already a few years old

It's the wiki page on dub, not dubstep, and the section I referred to is on the money. Is anyone here going to dispute that dub involves stripping tracks down to the drums and bass, sprinkling other instruments/vocals on top and making generous use of reverb and delay effects? Jus' saying, El-B, Horsepower et al. were doing that. I think when you say 'dubstep didn't even have dub stylings until 2005-2006' you mean it didn't have reggae stylings. That's different (though there's an early Tempa release you might want to have a look at...).

And wikipedia isn't that bad, really. One of my profs (cpsc) assigned a wiki page as a reading once

I understand the difference between dub and reggae, lol. Also there isn't a tempa I don't own so...

I can't be the only head who remembers and doesn't have to use wiki for answers? Wheres all my old heads at? When i get home I'll find the info for ya

cmgoodman1226 wrote:

55stevieboy2010 wrote:YEP! keep the fucking word. that way hopefully people will start calling the heavy shit that and leave us real dub heads with the proper name of dubstep.

LOOK ITS SIMPLE...BREAK THE WORD DOWN, THERE IS NO DUB IN HEAVY DUBSTEP. THIS MAKES THE WHOLE TERM INACCURATE. TEAROUT IS NOT DUBSTEP!!!

First off, I don't give a damn what the genre of music I like is called. You could call it "Im a cigarette" and I would still listen to it. My favorite music is hip hop, look at that name... it sucks ass. The name dubstep sounds like the description of how a retarded person walks... Call it bro step all you want. But don't get sour just cuz "your", (as if you produce anything of value yourself) genre is having its boundaries pushed. If everybody thought like you did than the only kind of music out would be classical music; and anytime anybody strayed slightly from that people would say "nooooo, that's not classical, it has to be the way I see it". No disrespect to classical music because I love it, but you can thank the people who pushed different genres forward for the fact that you have so many musical choices today. And to people blaming America for it, pretty sure the UK has "brostep" on lock with guys like feed me, flux, doctor p, rusko, even skream nowadays is making it.

wat kind of hip hop u listen to?

fractal wrote: I can't be the only head who remembers and doesn't have to use wiki for answers? Wheres all my old heads at? When i get home I'll find the info for ya

I'm not 'using wiki for answers' mate, I've been listening to dub for years. I just thought we could avoid arguing about what 'dub' means if I posted a source. Apparently not...

We don't need a head to 'remember'—just listen to the music. Take Shanks & Bigfoot - Sing-A-Long, for example. El-B's dub mix isn't just instrumental. All the instruments are gone (more or less) besides the drums and bass, there are percussive hits drenched in reverb, little bits of vocals echoing around every now and then... this is exactly the difference between reggae and dub. The early 'dubstep' releases on tempa and big apple have a similar vibe.

The tempa release I referred to is Dub War - Murderous Style / Generation, by the way. Both tunes are plenty dubby by any standard

what i mean by remember is, remember when dubstep wasn't even a word, and why it became known as dubstep... back when we were all on dubplate.net it was common knowledge, but now people seem to have forgotten... oh, well. why bother?

move along...

To rahul. Mostly sample based hiphop. Anything soul or jazz oriented. Blu & exile. Tribe called quest. Ganstarr. Pharcyde. Mobb deep. Big l. J dilla. 9th wonder. Wutang. I don't get into most of the synthed out crunk stuff that plays on the radio nowadays.

cmgood...etc etc, literally dunna mind sounding childish here, ill simply say ure massive essay that took you prob 20 minutes to think up, bothers me so little, ill simply answer it with a swift F U. trott along now my little brostepper xx

what i miss most is the community aspect of this place which has been replaced with line-drawing and an over-inflated sense of ego that people get based on aesthetic preferences... silliness

fractal wrote:what i miss most is the community aspect of this place which has been replaced with line-drawing and an over-inflated sense of ego that people get based on aesthetic preferences... silliness

i remember back in 08 when i joined, people were so much more friendly...

Thanks for the f u bro. And it was never meant to bother you. I was only hoping that maybe, just maybe you might take even a quick second to think about my point. If there weren't people pushing the genre (and every other genre), than everything would sound the same. And im glad you cared so little that you still felt the need to respond... that would actually be an indicator that you do care, and for that I am flattered.
Sincerely your bro,
Colin G.

cmgoodman1226 wrote:Thanks for the f u bro. And it was never meant to bother you. I was only hoping that maybe, just maybe you might take even a quick second to think about my point. If there weren't people pushing the genre (and every other genre), than everything would sound the same. And im glad you cared so little that you still felt the need to respond... that would actually be an indicator that you do care, and for that I am flattered.
Sincerely your bro,
Colin G.

he said bro...

Sure did bro. I had a chem test today, and I totally forgot the nomenclature for BROmine...

cheers col. good luck with the exam. bro

cool story bro

Thanks bro

fractal wrote:what i miss most is the community aspect of this place which has been replaced with line-drawing and an over-inflated sense of ego that people get based on aesthetic preferences... silliness

it's a joke that new members get moody with old heads with thousands of posts like yourself.

Actually fractal, turns out dubstep is named after its dub influences.


When Youngsta says it's like that, I believe him seeing he's Soulja's brother.

NilsFG wrote:Actually fractal, turns out dubstep is named after its dub influences.


When Youngsta says it's like that, I believe him seeing he's Soulja's brother.

I've watched this at least 20 times now and it never gets old.

C'MON BRO

only the editor of the July 2002 issue of xlr8r knows for sure, as it was in this san francisco magazine that the word dubstep became solidified as the name of this genre...

XLR8R wrote:...The earliest dubstep releases, which date back to 1999, were darker, more experimental, instrumental, or dub, remixes of 2-step garage tracks attempting to incorporate the funky elements of breakbeat, or the dark elements of drum and bass into 2-step, which featured as B-sides of single releases. In 2001, this and other strains of dark garage music began to be showcased and promoted at London's club night Forward>>, which went on to be considerably influential to the development of dubstep. The term "dubstep" in reference to a genre of music began to be used by around 2002, by which time stylistic trends used in creating these remixes started to become more noticeable and distinct from 2-step and grime...

grain of salt