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Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:54 pm
by serox
VirtualMark wrote:i don't understand why everyone is saying about skrillex's 'reese'. i wouldn't have thought its even a reese, more of a distorted formant sound.
Was thinking the same. Its not really what I know as when someone mentions the Reese bassline.

I think we should rename it to the "formant midline" instead.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:07 pm
by Huts
serox wrote:What has happened to the Reese:(

How did it go from this, where it all begun.



to something that just hurts my ears
I'd wager dubstep/DnB/techno etc. would be pretty boring if every tune that used a reese was a copy of the original don't ya think?


Soundcloud
Anyway back on topic, the reeses in this tune are great. Every reese I hear from District or Sleeper are always so crisp, but still have a lot of filter movement. Every time a filter touches my reese I feel like I'm losing power and harmonics with not much to show for it. How do these guys keep the crispness and character of their reeses but still have so much movement? Also do those little reese blips that first come in at :40 have panning automation or is that just me?

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:25 am
by Electric_Head
cmgoodman1226 wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:I was saying just that serox.
I don`t get how Neurofunk style reece bases have been changed so much to just be more skril copying.
neurofunk style reeses haven't changed so much to copy skrillex... Where are you getting your intel on that one my friend?
I think you guys are missing what myself and serox were saying.
I made a mistake by mentioning skrillex but my point was that the reece's on display in this thread are more akin to bro-style skrillexy sounds.
Not what I would consider to be a warm, lush reece.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:29 am
by cmgoodman1226
Electric_Head wrote:
cmgoodman1226 wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:I was saying just that serox.
I don`t get how Neurofunk style reece bases have been changed so much to just be more skril copying.
neurofunk style reeses haven't changed so much to copy skrillex... Where are you getting your intel on that one my friend?
I think you guys are missing what myself and serox were saying.
I made a mistake by mentioning skrillex but my point was that the reece's on display in this thread are more akin to bro-style skrillexy sounds.
Not what I would consider to be a warm, lush reece.
I can't really speak for the rest of everybody but the reason my reeses don't sound warm and lush like spor and phace and noisia is because I'm not as good at making reeses as spor and phace and noisia. But that's the point of this thread: to share different ideas or techniques in hopes that we can all impart what little knowledge we have to each other and maybe get some cool sounds from the process. And tbh there's plenty of different types of reeses that have been showcased. I've heard all different types from lowpassed jungle types to in your face nuerofunk stabs. And if you listen to the DNB song in my sig all the way through, I'm pretty sure there's not really any "bro-steppy" sound in there, and that's some of the examples that I put up.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:36 am
by Electric_Head
I hear you cmgoodman, I`m not trying to downplay any of the work done in this thread or for that matter, the thread itself.
I do agree that the point of this thread his to help others improve.
Personally though, I do hear loads of sounds in hear leaning more towards the more mid-range, higher pitched sounds.
My idea of a Reece is a self-contained harmonic experience.

Warm, Lush and sci-fi.

If you get my drift?

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:03 pm
by cmgoodman1226
Electric_Head wrote:I hear you cmgoodman, I`m not trying to downplay any of the work done in this thread or for that matter, the thread itself.
I do agree that the point of this thread his to help others improve.
Personally though, I do hear loads of sounds in hear leaning more towards the more mid-range, higher pitched sounds.
My idea of a Reece is a self-contained harmonic experience.

Warm, Lush and sci-fi.

If you get my drift?
Yeah. More than likely you and I have a very similar taste on reeses. That being said, one of the things I like about this thread is that it seems to (for the most part) stay away from the typical DSF politics. There are very few threads where somebody can post a "brosteppy" sound and not get flamed for it. The fact is, I might not like a lot of those sounds, but who gives a damn? Who am I to decide what somebody elses music should sound like. So if Joe Schmo comes in and he showcases his reese, I may HATE it, but I'm not going to say to him "I think your reese sucks because it differs from my personal taste in reese sounds". Instead I ask myself a few questions that work independently of whether I actually LIKE the sound or not: Is it mixed well, Can I hear the sub?, Is it Muddy? Are there any harsh resonant peaks? does it have enough movement? Is it put to good use in the track? These are the types of questions that I can answer if I want to give advice to Joe Schmo. Sorry for my ramblings; I wasn't trying to say that you were flaming anybody because you weren't, I was just expressing my views on that topic.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:16 pm
by serox
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Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:36 pm
by Electric_Head
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Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:16 pm
by System 53
I use FL's parametric EQ2 a lot for my reece. The one i made in the song in my sig (WW3) is simply a 3xosc, using 2 detuned saws, then some flanger/chorus/distortion/automating EQ points/moar distortion and finally some compression and a bit of reverb. I think what really makes the sound are the filters you add. I could use Fruity Love Filter but honestly I prefer to automate my EQ :)

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:43 pm
by CE9958
Not to stir anything up but I'm fairly certain that what makes a reese a reese is how you process it... not necessarily how it sounds. Its like a turkey club and a grilled cheese look and taste completely different but they're still sandwiches. In my personal opinion there can be low, midrange and even high reeses maybe. To me a reese is a technique not a sound. Thats what makes them so cool to me and that's why I made this thread about them. In my opinion they are one of if not the coolest types of sound designs in dubstep/dnb/etc. However I do agree that everyone has their own opinions on what a reese is and should sound like and I welcome and have loved reading through this thread since I made it. Its really grown into a pretty awesome resource and has helped me and and sure plenty of others quite a bit. I appreciate that it has somehow stayed clean of the DSF drama as skrillex has indeed been mentioned a few times on this thread fortunately without starting a wildfire.

Keep the reeses coming and lets see what else we can learn from eachother!

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:29 am
by jrisreal
Good to see that the argument is over...IMO a reese is defined as two saw waves detuned against eachother. no matter whether its warm and bassy or trebly and piercing, its a reese if it's based off of those detuned saw waves.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:44 am
by Toolman4
JR, you took the words right out of my mouth. Glad someone finally said it. FFS people...1. Why when anyone inquires about making some neuro a la koan, noisia, spor, etc, they are ALWAYS directed to reese's and processing/resampling? and of course, further research the grid on DOA?
2. Why does anyone have to challenge the point of this thread? Do you really get satisfaction calling out those who are contributing to the community? Get over yourself, and let's get back to why we're here....


PS...Starting to feel for ya, wub :/

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:31 am
by Electric_Head
Toolman4 wrote:JR, you took the words right out of my mouth. Glad someone finally said it. FFS people...1. Why when anyone inquires about making some neuro a la koan, noisia, spor, etc, they are ALWAYS directed to reese's and processing/resampling? and of course, further research the grid on DOA?
2. Why does anyone have to challenge the point of this thread? Do you really get satisfaction calling out those who are contributing to the community? Get over yourself, and let's get back to why we're here....


PS...Starting to feel for ya, wub :/
huh?
I think you missed JR's point.
No-one is arguing in here.
We are able to agree that the thread is helping many folks regardless of the Reece style.
Allowing individuals to have an opinion is what forums are about.
Anyone of us making comments on the created Reeces or the premise of this thread is surely just constructive?
It`s not like anyone came in and started flaming all the made reeces, just an observation that we commented on.
We disagree, accept each others opinions and move on.
Pretty much the basis for all good conversation is a willingness to agree that we all have differing opinions.

To be honest though, folks are directed to Reece threads because that is the basis for all Neuro styles.
Reeces are also the starting point for many of your high pitched midrange esk sounds.
By me commenting on the Reeces in question, I was purely stating my opinion on the nature of the Reece today compared to previous Reeces.

2. Why does anyone have to challenge the point of this thread? Do you really get satisfaction calling out those who are contributing to the community? Get over yourself, and let's get back to why we're here....

Do you believe any of this statement?
No-one is acting full of themselves or challenging the point of the thread.
I didn`t see anyone being called out.
Constructive feedback/criticism is what pushes this scene, not just randomly accepting everything as the be-all and end-all.

If I was to be a dick I`d come in here and pick people by name and call their Reece SHIT.
did I? or anyone else for that matter?

enough of derailing this thread

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:03 am
by CE9958
Seriously. Good looks electric head.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:26 am
by B-Frank
In my ever so humble opinion, I'd like it if people would stop dismissing everything that isn't the classic seriously lowpassed reese... Neurofunk Reeses have been round for a very, very long time now. Infact, I'm willing to put a fair bit of money on the fact Neurofunk reeses have been around a lot longer than most of the people in this forum have been even producing and in some cases a fair bit longer than some people here have even been listening to the genre.

I will go as far as admitting that I hear some in here what are just pure midranged distortion sounds and not reese like at all.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:20 am
by VirtualMark
i like reeses peanut butter cups, the miniatures are my favourite. :D

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:38 am
by serox
Nothing wrong with people speaking their minds. I prefer people to be straight up than to just ass lick and tell me what they think I want to hear!

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:54 pm
by Augment
k, just my take on the reese bass. IMO, as long as your starting point is detuned saw waves, I'll call it a reese. i don't care if it's a high pitched one, if it's full of midrange or whatever. Just my opinion

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:29 pm
by CE9958
blinkesko wrote:k, just my take on the reese bass. IMO, as long as your starting point is detuned saw waves, I'll call it a reese. i don't care if it's a high pitched one, if it's full of midrange or whatever. Just my opinion
Don't worry about the semantics man just show us your reese and don't get all caught up in making sure people know that its your opinion of a reese. If people wanna be snobs then ignore them.

Re: The Reese Bass Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:16 am
by rymebox
Just uploaded one... it's in my sig