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SILKIE wrote:80s techno used wobble on bass.

on point as usual bro. 80's techno was full of it.

heaven 17 "let me go"
1982

this is probably close to the start of wobble bass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJEh6Td9rI

clearly the word 'wobble' in a dubstep context refers to a specific musical trend within his scene, rather than the filter function itself.

cogi wrote:

spiderman wrote:
but ye i its all about the good old low frequency bass pressure. thats what was/is really unique for me, that in this day and age where most if not all dance music is soley focused on the high and mid range frequencies in all kinds of forms, this was something that turned that upside down by bringing sumin old into sumin new and it worked.

most if not all dance music features bass as one of the key driving elements of its composition, go to any club.

dont get your point other than an overstated fear of the wobble. get over it. good music without wobble. but with bass, around 140, with interesting rhythm will likely exist even if not called "dubstep"

long live the death of dubstep in some sense as much as i care. was good but things move on. still rate the artists though, scene just died a bit, seen?

my point was that the bass lead groove.

corse lots of different types of music have a focus on bass, but with dubstep (well earlier beats) the pace of the track was lead by bass, and it being very low frequency. the melody on the deep sub-bass.

no fear of wobble wot so ever, infact i probably listen to more wobble than you.

simply stating my prefrence tbh.

yeah i know exaclty what loefah means when he talks about under 25 year olds and into to pilling loads, Im only 19 but ive taken enough pills for my time... definitly feeling this mix... bringing back alot of depth in to dubstep..

After reading it again, I'm a bit disappointed that the scene has gone hating each other for making certain decisions (wobbles) in making tunes. it sounds that loefah got a bit bitter, while he was there in the first hour, but was (until now it seems) afraid of putting out new stuff, but seeing newer producers having success.
by reading this interview it seems that anyone not on those 4(?) big named labels either aren't progressing or doing boring shit, which in my opinion is not the truth.

anyways i'm looking forward to the kryptic minds album and especially loefah vs burial

peace

2084 wrote:After reading it again, I'm a bit disappointed that the scene has gone hating each other for making certain decisions

if it helps ballance things out for you there was loads of politics in the early and mid phazes too - but at least now people have bookings and sell records!

well I'm not from the UK and didn't catch the first train on dubstep, but when I heard the dubwarz special early 2006 on mary anne hobbs, it still seemed to be a very friendly almost family like scene..
maybe the family is too big now and starting to grow retarded childs and bad uncles but i would love more familiy business


edit: also I've found white on black hard to read. its ok for short columns, but it gets very hard on the eyes after a bit, because the contrast is too harsh.. just a thing you could consider changing your otherwise great blog

wonderful interview! keep reciting it when walking in the park
big up Blackdown for this!

any info surfaced sinse the interview about the loefah and burial bits?

i know its doubtfull info will surface but still...... i hope this burial colaboration out of the long list of the ones im aware of actually gets released

If you havent yet - check Youngsta show 23rd July (think it might still be on the Rinse Podcast?)
Hadnt checked a Yunx show for a while - this one is DEEP - He plays some Kryptic Minds stuff ? and a lot that sounds like Loefahs' preferred strain of the sound - deep/minimal/building & building - its SO DOPE, wish there was a T/L for this one

I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about all this.

I was only listening to Youngsta's sets for the most part in 2005 and it was perfect timing for me. I finally had a breaking point with drum and bass around then, and even though i was still feeling the drumfunk and some Amit and other underground styles, I found that the popular dubstep at the time was what I really perferred for the most part. The DMZ, Skream, and D1 tunes that Yunx was rinsing in 05 were classic and popular within the scene.

Don't get me wrong, I don't really care what is popular that much, but its awesome when the quality stuff is what is getting played by the big name djs. Schooling myself up on 92-96 jungle is another thing that pushed me away from dnb in around 04-05, realizing how more amazingly original and rhythmically pleasing the old stuff was compared to what dnb had become.

When dubstep was getting big in 05, I was so happy because I felt like I was witnessing another collision of classic stuff that was new and that people were feeling, as opposed to shit in dnb that was popular like Bodyrock and Twist em Out and all that crap.

That being said, I was wary of other styles of dubstep that Youngsta wasnt featuring because i felt like that was the only dubstep of the highest caliber. I didnt even listen to N-types show for a year or so because I assumed it was just a bunch of jump up stuff that I wouldn't feel. Once, I started listening to his show though, I started warming up to stuff that wasn't strictly half-step, deep bizness.

The more I started getting into other stuff besides Youngsta's sound I felt a little like I was getting away from what sound I wanted to represent as a dj - evem though I liked the stuff. This is what has kind of been bothering me lately more and more, because now I couldnt even spin a full set if I wanted too of that sound reminiscent of the sound Loefah keeps referring to, because of the lack of its availability. Even Youngsta's current sets have a lot more of the dnb, midrange, jump up, whatever you want to call it sound in it.

With seemingly all my old dnb peers that told me "fuck off" basically when I tried to push dubstep in 2005 finally jumping on the bandwagon, I can feel the sound being somewhat catered to them. Also, not having the money to by all the vinyl I would like, I resort to digital tunes a lot which seem to be for the most part in the vein of the crazy, wobbly, party music which I used to really not care for as much. A lot the deeper stuff does not get put on digital. (And btw, I'm a vinyl lover and cannot wait to be not so broke anymore.)

Sorry for the rant, but just hearing Loefah's take on things really just gets me thinking. I admire his integrity, but wonder for myself where the line is. I simply cannot have the quality, deep, new tunes I crave for and I do genuinely like a lot of the not as deep stuff, but sometimes feel like I'm playing more of than I want to. All I can say is I hope dubstep can avoid the pitfalls of dnb, yet be able to stay popular.

Also I was kind of upset at Loefah's despise for Disko Rekah. I mean damn, his standards are through the roof!

FairiesWearBoots wrote:If you havent yet - check Youngsta show 23rd July (think it might still be on the Rinse Podcast?)
Hadnt checked a Yunx show for a while - this one is DEEP - He plays some Kryptic Minds stuff ? and a lot that sounds like Loefahs' preferred strain of the sound - deep/minimal/building & building - its SO DOPE, wish there was a T/L for this one

fucking sick show that, been caning it ever since i downloaded it.

FairiesWearBoots wrote:If you havent yet - check Youngsta show 23rd July (think it might still be on the Rinse Podcast?)
Hadnt checked a Yunx show for a while - this one is DEEP - He plays some Kryptic Minds stuff ? and a lot that sounds like Loefahs' preferred strain of the sound - deep/minimal/building & building - its SO DOPE, wish there was a T/L for this one

Very BIG show!

Where is Kryptic Minds Album??? Should have been out time ago

http://www.stholdings.co.uk/

!!! dunno how anticipated i am!

this is gonna be the sickest release 2009!

fooishbar wrote:

FairiesWearBoots wrote:If you havent yet - check Youngsta show 23rd July (think it might still be on the Rinse Podcast?)
Hadnt checked a Yunx show for a while - this one is DEEP - He plays some Kryptic Minds stuff ? and a lot that sounds like Loefahs' preferred strain of the sound - deep/minimal/building & building - its SO DOPE, wish there was a T/L for this one

fucking sick show that, been caning it ever since i downloaded it.

Any other links for that youngsta show? Rinse website aint working for me.

@ Subliminal:
Wholeheartedly agreed!
And I found it very nice to read a post that takes pains to explain things in detail. (i had almost quoted your entire post ...)

Subliminal wrote: The more I started getting into other stuff besides Youngsta's sound I felt a little like I was getting away from what sound I wanted to represent as a dj - evem though I liked the stuff. This is what has kind of been bothering me lately more and more, because now I couldnt even spin a full set if I wanted too of that sound reminiscent of the sound Loefah keeps referring to, because of the lack of its availability.

I come from a House background and used to dj House on and off, but when I fell in love with that "Youngsta/Loefah" sound I realized I'd better stop DJing because, yes

Subliminal wrote:I simply cannot have the quality, deep, new tunes I crave for

Ok, for me it's not that tragic from the DJing point of view since I like the listening/dancing position better anyway. But

Subliminal wrote: Even Youngsta's current sets have a lot more of the dnb, midrange, jump up, whatever you want to call it sound in it.

Yep. Youngsta might have a problem, too, finding enough quality deep new tunes... (although I also like his jump-up stuff)

Subliminal wrote:Also I was kind of upset at Loefah's despise for Disko Rekah.

and THIS, too.

su wrote:@ Subliminal:
Wholeheartedly agreed!
And I found it very nice to read a post that takes pains to explain things in detail. (i had almost quoted your entire post ...)
stuff)

thanks man, thats probably the longest post in my history of posting!