Yeah, It would be nice to be able to start a beat somewhere more comfortable or inspiring and then chuck it in the computer. But with the sp can you sequence in the machine and then write the different sequences on the card as there own things? like you'd have your drum loop and your sample loop etc. because if you can do that I'm pretty much sold
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:09 am
by nowaysj
If I'm understanding you correctly, no you can't. First of all, I don't use the sequencer at all. Maybe I should, but there is limited polyphony in the 404. So I do microwave style beats. Record kick hat snare onto another pad, then record that pad playing as you play in the music chops or whatever. Then record all to another pad as you do fx passes. It is in no way convenient or a way that you would normally work.
You can't save like individual layered patterns. You can save patterns, but with everything. And you can also play patterns which is really dope, but NOT while you are resampling, which is another reason why I don't use patterns.
I've got to impress this upon you, you will not be using the 404 in a regular comfortable way. You will find yourself doing really odd htings, in odd ways, strung together by workarounds.
I really like some of this guy's beats. A couple are just some of my favorite beats. It takes a special beat maker to really optimize the 404, like a certain perfect casualness. But listening to this, there is so much wrong, that it is all right! But once you know the 404, you'll hear all the work arounds that necessitated this quirky beat.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:19 am
by zosomagik
Hmmmmm idk everything you just said should put me off, but a sixth sense is telling me to do it. I DESPERATELY need something different, production has been a little frustrating lately. A different or even odd approach will either break it or make it worse. But I think I'm willing to take the risk.
That tune is pretty dope though
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:27 am
by nowaysj
You know, with hardware, if I've got the money, I'm not too worried about the purchase. If you don't vibe, just sell it along. People been selling and buying musical instruments since the dawn of our time. It is a brotherhood. I buy almost everything used now. I like selling my gear. It really hurts, and maybe you kick yourself for it later, but it is like, here is my girlfriend, take her, I'm done with her, on to the next, but I really think you're going to like her. That is a fair bit more misogynistic than I intended, but whatevs.
Just know what you're getting into - a very loose, lofi, played by hand unquantized magic box.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:43 am
by zosomagik
Fuck it, like you said, I can always sell. I'm going for it, and when the weather gets nice here im gonna go all tarzan and live and make beats in the woods and shit.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:45 am
by nowaysj
Yes. Sample that Tarzan call, and I'm sure you can do sick things with it in the 404.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:51 am
by zosomagik
Hell yeah, and since I'm not feeling very creative lately I'm gonna mixdown a couple things I've been working on and post em up here.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:54 am
by nowaysj
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:48 pm
by zosomagik
Im a little surprised this hasn't been posted on here.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:50 pm
by Jizz
Samiyam's That dude you know, That Duude
And noways that aruba story is beautiful
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:07 am
by zosomagik
JizzMan wrote:Samiyam's That dude you know, That Duude
For sure, he's got me craving the sp404
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:14 am
by Aiva
Hi guys please helpppp my friend has lost his serial number for Stylus RMX and threw the package out without registering ( I know his mad too ) what can be done now the company wont do anything
Lots of kisses in advance
Aiva
xxx
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:23 am
by zosomagik
Chase down the garbage truck
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:48 am
by zosomagik
Here's some strange shit for ya, it's not done in the slightest in terms of arrangement or mixing, but I've been messing with it for awhile and want to see what you guys who are into this shit think.
Aiva wrote:Hi guys please helpppp my friend has lost his serial number for Stylus RMX and threw the package out without registering ( I know his mad too ) what can be done now the company wont do anything
Lots of kisses in advance
Aiva
xxx
There is growing evidence that time doesn't exist. Just focus really hard on writing down the serial number on a piece of paper. Do that for a couple of days, then check the paper. You may find the number on there.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:22 am
by zosomagik
nowaysj wrote:How'd you get a 404 so fast?
All done in ableton my dude, but I did find an ebay bid with a day left on it that's only at $200. I'm gonna wait it out and see if I can get lucky and steal at the last minute
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:24 am
by SunkLo
zosomagik wrote:
nowaysj wrote:How'd you get a 404 so fast?
All done in ableton my dude, but I did find an ebay bid with a day left on it that's only at $200. I'm gonna wait it out and see if I can get lucky and steal at the last minute
I too, am an ebay sniper.
Re: Beat Music Makers
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:25 am
by nowaysj
zosomagik wrote:
nowaysj wrote:How'd you get a 404 so fast?
All done in ableton my dude, but I did find an ebay bid with a day left on it that's only at $200. I'm gonna wait it out and see if I can get lucky and steal at the last minute
Whoa, that sounds like 404fx. Okay, you're gonna love the 404
Dude, I think I bought my 404sx for 250$ new. I think. Can't recall, but I think it was $250.