Fucking Pkay, ambassador to the entirety of the US Military.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:19 pm
by wubstep
Masses of conflicting stories are a great way to restore faith. NAAAAT.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:28 pm
by pkay
They said he monitored the raid. Odds are they had radio relayed to their command and in turn relayed to the situation room.
The problem is there was an immediate demand for knowledge by the public, an immediate urge to share the knowledge, and that conflicted with military protocol
Any time you have shots fired in the field that result in a KIA you go through crazy fucking debriefings and knowledge gathering. So unofficial debriefings asking what happened were passed along and misinformation got through (example, osamas wife was not killed she was injured, osama was not armed, etc). I think once they got official debriefings done they found out all the ins and outs. If actual video existed they'd simply observe the video. That rarely happens in the field.
I think that plays into why the photos aren't released yet. They want to insure when this shit comes out the caption is 100% accurate as to remove all doubt in conspiracy. Something as simple as "he was dumped in the ocean at 3pm" when it was really 2pm could show doubt. People can easily find out where the ship was in the ocean, calculate the suns position, shadows cast blah blah blah and then you've got retards doing tower 7 type shit.
I think they're pumping the breaks on the release of info, milking it a bit, and all will be revealed. It's too important not to show the pics
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:57 pm
by clifford_-
or it never happened...
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:59 pm
by noam
pkay wrote:. It's too important not to show the pics
kinda like when a plane flew into the Pentagon and they released the vid...
oh wait
but yeh i get what you're saying, i reckon they'll release pics soon enough also
though it wouldn't surprise if they never do
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:11 pm
by pkay
noam wrote:
pkay wrote:. It's too important not to show the pics
kinda like when a plane flew into the Pentagon and they released the vid...
oh wait
but yeh i get what you're saying, i reckon they'll release pics soon enough also
though it wouldn't surprise if they never do
There's video of the pentagon crash.... not sure what you're getting at there
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:12 pm
by cityzen
Link?
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:20 pm
by pkay
cityzen wrote:Link?
been up for years
they didnt release any of the interior security videos as the pentagon is well the pentagon and releasing video of the interior of one of the most secure buildings in the world would be rather silly
you can find hundreds of videos on youtube of nuts picking this video apart. This was taken from a guard posts security cam that is designed to capture the license plate and photo of the passenger.... not designed to catch planes flying into buildings.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:48 pm
by noam
i cant see shit on that video, neither plane nor missile
i've seen extracts from that video before
what about all the other camera's from the area??
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:14 pm
by Ayatollah
oh come on, cant we leave the 9/11 conspiracy theories out of this
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:52 pm
by Sheff
not trying to de-rail the subject here but that pentagon video is fucking stupid
are they seriously telling us that at the motherfucking security entrance of the pentagon they have a webcam that records like .5 frames a second?
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:56 pm
by pkay
Sheff wrote:not trying to de-rail the subject here but that pentagon video is fucking stupid
are they seriously telling us that at the motherfucking security entrance of the pentagon they have a webcam that records like .5 frames a second?
It was 2001 but to humor you
entrance cams on military installations are designed to lock in frames to photograph vehicles and license plate numbers.
This is how most traffic cams work as well for running red lights. Constant video with higher FPS would require you to stop the film, rewind, find a clear frame and then identify the license plate.
as for other cameras in the area.... this is a military installation and one of the most secure buildings on the planet. It's likely that they purposely insured none of the nearby buildings (which really aren't nearby if you've been to the area) were filming the pentagon.... not to mention that it's illegal to film or photograph restricted areas in the US
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:59 pm
by Sheff
ahh i see, makes sense then
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:02 pm
by pkay
Sheff wrote:ahh i see, makes sense then
i exited the military in 04 and our gate still used lower fps cameras. May have changed by now.... but back in 01, 1 megapixel cameras were a few hundred bucks but were the shit.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:23 pm
by pkay
now I'm hearing they decided not to release the photos. My guess... saving it for the election. Let people doubt him call him out on it then drop it on them.
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:49 pm
by gnome
pkay wrote:now I'm hearing they decided not to release the photos. My guess... saving it for the election. Let people doubt him call him out on it then drop it on them.
Like his birth certificate!
Re: Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:53 pm
by bagelator
Badman Juice wrote:
bagelator wrote:why would they bury his body at sea?
624. If it is feared that an enemy may dig up the grave and exhume the dead body and amputate its ears or nose or other limbs, it should be lowered into sea, if possible, as stated in the foregoing rule