Jay- really nice use of space and atmosphere, just not really feeling the kick
alrighty, new 140 bit from me. been experimenting with instead of making a defined intro drop build drop outro, recently ive been making a couple 16 bar loops and finding ways in which they work best. idk i think it makes tunes less boring. Soundcloud
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:47 am
by jayladders
ehbrums1 wrote:Finji- love it, the bass really consumed me :3
Jay- really nice use of space and atmosphere, just not really feeling the kick
alrighty, new 140 bit from me. been experimenting with instead of making a defined intro drop build drop outro, recently ive been making a couple 16 bar loops and finding ways in which they work best. idk i think it makes tunes less boring. Soundcloud
this is nice and bouncy. those stabs are a bit off tho, something about them i cant quite get at.
also im loving all the archer avatars. this is amazing.
btw, anyone want a stab at remxing pragmatists? can send stems over
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:58 am
by Phigure
ehbrums1 wrote:Finji- love it, the bass really consumed me :3
Jay- really nice use of space and atmosphere, just not really feeling the kick
alrighty, new 140 bit from me. been experimenting with instead of making a defined intro drop build drop outro, recently ive been making a couple 16 bar loops and finding ways in which they work best. idk i think it makes tunes less boring. Soundcloud
serious track, surprising to see some good grime tunage come from you of all people
i'd agree with jate though, stabs could use a little work. i'd definitely keep them because they work well with the track, but i think they're just too bright sounding and also a bit louder in the mix than they have to be
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:01 am
by ehbes
Phigure wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:Finji- love it, the bass really consumed me :3
Jay- really nice use of space and atmosphere, just not really feeling the kick
alrighty, new 140 bit from me. been experimenting with instead of making a defined intro drop build drop outro, recently ive been making a couple 16 bar loops and finding ways in which they work best. idk i think it makes tunes less boring. Soundcloud
serious track, surprising to see some good grime tunage come from you of all people
i still dont see how its grime lol, there arent overly distorted/shit sounds
i'd agree with jate though, stabs could use a little work. i'd definitely keep them because they work well with the track, but i think they're just too bright sounding and also a bit louder in the mix than they have to be
aight thanks
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:18 am
by jayladders
more 2step than grime really
out of interest, thoughts on this?
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:21 am
by Phigure
ehbrums1 wrote:i still dont see how its grime lol, there arent overly distorted/shit sounds
that's your definition of grime?
to me it shares a lot of similarities with some stereotypical grime stuff - obviously the overdriven kick, the high pitched string sample (just listen to something like strings hoe or tings in boots), and in general just the rhythms and the way you sequenced certain elements
jayladders wrote:more 2step than grime really
most grime (especially the type of sound found in the early years of its evolution) can really just be classified as a subgenre of 2step, just like the early dubstep sound
aint you never heard wot u call it?
"wot u call it?" "garage?"
"wot u call it?" "urban?"
"wot u call it?" "2step?"
jayladders wrote:out of interest, thoughts on this?
i wouldnt say it's a shit track, but it's boring imo
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:31 am
by ehbes
Phigure wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:i still dont see how its grime lol, there arent overly distorted/shit sounds
that's your definition of grime?
to me it shares a lot of similarities with some stereotypical grime stuff - obviously the overdriven kick, the high pitched string sample (just listen to something like strings hoe or tings in boots), and in general just the rhythms and the way you sequenced certain elements
im sorry but anyone who likes this cant say they like music...
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:43 am
by Phigure
ehbrums1 wrote:im sorry but anyone who likes this cant say they like music...
so youre generalizing an entire genre based on one track that youre not particularly fond of
ive never had the opportunity to hear it out, but i can tell that's the type of tune that goes off in the dance. i know i'd be goin mad. it's like duppy soursop... i thought it was one of the worst tracks i'd ever heard but when i heard it out, it was fucking massive and it just finally made sense
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:43 am
by Phigure
double post
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:46 am
by ehbes
Phigure wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:im sorry but anyone who likes this cant say they like music...
so youre generalizing an entire genre based on one track that youre not particularly fond of
ive never had the opportunity to hear it out, but i can tell that's the type of tune that goes off in the dance. i know i'd be goin mad. it's like duppy soursop... i thought it was one of the worst tracks i'd ever heard but when i heard it out, it was fucking massive and it just finally made sense
no i was using it as an example, i guess what some people think of as raw, i think of as sloppy AF
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:03 am
by Phigure
fair enough, that track's a bit of an extreme though lol. that particular youtube clip of it is actually a terrible one too
the way i see it: you sorta got to remember that grime really is urban music at its heart. a lot of it was basically just a bunch of teenagers playing around with software (especially back in the day when there werent sites like DSF and "production bibles" and vengeance sample packs, etc), who all sort of collectively came upon this new, original sound
personally, i love the rawness. it's that same type of rawness that, in my eyes, makes the dubstep from the earlier days so much better than almost anything coming out nowadays. the rawness really just makes me feel that i'm listening to is something sincere. you've no doubt often heard about the idea that beauty lies in imperfection, and that's what it really comes down to - at least for me.
or of course, you simply don't like grime. different strokes for different folks obviously, but based on some of your tunes...
really fond of this one as well man, solid all around.
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:08 am
by jayladders
Phigure wrote:most grime (especially the type of sound found in the early years of its evolution) can really just be classified as a subgenre of 2step, just like the early dubstep sound
yes, but ehbs tune is 'more' 2step than grime. in my opinion. they are two different genres after all geez
Phigure wrote:aint you never heard wot u call it?
ur asking me if ive heard the most famous wiley track from early days?
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:54 am
by didi
ehbrums1 wrote:
Phigure wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:i still dont see how its grime lol, there arent overly distorted/shit sounds
that's your definition of grime?
to me it shares a lot of similarities with some stereotypical grime stuff - obviously the overdriven kick, the high pitched string sample (just listen to something like strings hoe or tings in boots), and in general just the rhythms and the way you sequenced certain elements
im sorry but anyone who likes this cant say they like music...
lol same with bangarang and dubstep. Come on ehbs, you know each genre has it's bangers and it's shit tracks.
Re: THE SECRET NINJA DUBS CLUB
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:29 am
by Lye_Form
ehbrums1 wrote:i still dont see how its grime lol, there arent overly distorted/shit sounds