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Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:21 pm
by ezza
RKM wrote:
Riddles wrote:Hahaha Eric, when you were mixing 2 tunes at hobsons and the tune you were bringing in started to run out before the one you mixed it in to
this is the kind of level i'm on atm. one tune fading out nicely put the next one in sounds so legit haha, yeah practice seems to be the one, can get it in around the right place to put tracks in the intro or in those bits where it takes the drums and bass out (cannot remember the term i'm sure there is one) but there's always a few too many snares elsewhere.
is house easier? i assumed so, i really only have dubstep and some grime
i think house/techno is easier to learn beat matching

but you can be alot more creative with house and techno which takes more skill imo

also you can mix house and techno and make half an hour sound like the same tune - just keeping a constant movement which takes a lot of practise

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:22 pm
by didi
RKM wrote:
Riddles wrote:Hahaha Eric, when you were mixing 2 tunes at hobsons and the tune you were bringing in started to run out before the one you mixed it in to
this is the kind of level i'm on atm. one tune fading out nicely put the next one in sounds so legit haha, yeah practice seems to be the one, can get it in around the right place to put tracks in the intro or in those bits where it takes the drums and bass out (cannot remember the term i'm sure there is one) but there's always a few too many snares elsewhere.
is house easier? i assumed so, i really only have dubstep and some grime
u mean a breakdown? lol

house it probs easier but mainly it'll just be different

tbh when im mixing grime it's different to when im mixing dubstep

just keep practising really if u spend a lot of time mixing regularly u'll get tight quite quickly

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:23 pm
by Riddles
RKM wrote:
Riddles wrote:Hahaha Eric, when you were mixing 2 tunes at hobsons and the tune you were bringing in started to run out before the one you mixed it in to
this is the kind of level i'm on atm. one tune fading out nicely put the next one in sounds so legit haha, yeah practice seems to be the one, can get it in around the right place to put tracks in the intro or in those bits where it takes the drums and bass out (cannot remember the term i'm sure there is one) but there's always a few too many snares elsewhere.
is house easier? i assumed so, i really only have dubstep and some grime
dont forget to count 16 bars, mixing in phase is important otherwise your tunes could drop 3 bars out of sync.

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:26 pm
by ezza

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:28 pm
by RKM
haha yeah that's it, my musical theory is appalling. yeah i rate blends, i really like hearing little hints of the next tune come in and stuff, shame the mixer i have is some toys-r-us shit that doesn't have eq, still need to get the basics down first anyway

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:29 pm
by garethom
just get tunes with ambient bits in and mix from those sections, well easy.

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:03 pm
by ezza
anyone with mac mail know how u can mark emails as junk forever? like i can mark selected ones as junk and they'll go the junk box, but the when they get sent again go back to my main mail inbox

i got like a 1000 viagra emails ffs. i cant think of how they would of got my address lol i never give my propa email to shitty sites

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:04 pm
by rockonin
Where has the 'Counting Thread' gone?

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:03 pm
by titchbit

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:53 pm
by sigbowls
my mom used to make me go to na meetings idk why

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:40 pm
by rickyarbino
magma wrote:
jesslem wrote:
magma wrote:
jesslem wrote:Any government that chooses not to provide healthcare to its citizens is essentially declaring war on them.

Discuss.
No. I mean, it's fucking obvious, but...

Declaring war would imply a change in circumstance - the U.S., for example, have never had nationalised healthcare. Has their government been in a perpetual state of war with the people that elected it (and as such, tacitly agreed to no nationalised healthcare) since the Declaration of Independence? Did Britain only stop its war against itself after WW2? Were we fighting the Germans AND the British until 1945?

What a daft notion.
I don't know if you know this, but the US was not, and still isn't based on electoral democracy. In the beginning, the only individuals with the ability, let alone right, to vote were land owning white males. And considering that most of the 13 colonies had been largely divided up by the british before the revolution, and only realistically split further after the revolution between successful, and powerful, generals (who in many cases were already part of the land owning elite), could you not say that when they made the decisions which lead to the formation of a new state, set in on and around land that people were already living on, which is after all what constitutes an invasion, wouldn't you at least consider that they were, in essence at least, declaring war?

And to your questions, perhaps.
Where do you draw the line and decide something is an act of war?

If not providing healthcare via the state is a declaration of war (despite it not being a change in the status quo for a country that's never had it) then what else is considered war? Profiting from allowing your citizens to get addicted to substances that are known to kill them (tobacco)? Making people buy their own houses in Alaska? I mean, they'd die in the cold...

Fairly basically, I think in order to "Declare War" you have to change something. If America introduced a policy tomorrow that required every retiree to give up their right to any healthcare, that might be a declaration of war or if they arbitrarily made healthcare to expensive for most people. At worst, keeping a 'bad' policy is negligence, but framing it as an act of war only confuses matters and gets everyone so riled up a solution is never reached.

I'm pretty comfortable on my history of American and British democracy... after WW2 Britain went the extra mile and, through a democratically elected government, introduced elements of socialism into its capitalist economy along with great swathes of Europe... that's got nothing to do with war and everything to do with a society setting it's own priorities during a period where it was forced to rebuild itself (Britain was ruined economically after WW2 and building the NHS was one of the biggest things to bring it from its knees). As a people we decided broadly during the 20th Century that the Welfare State was a good idea, the US at the same time decided it wasn't such a good idea - if you ask the average post-WW2 20th Century American a question about socialism, they will have a much more sceptical view than the average Brit, Swede or German... they're part of a very different society to us, go through an entirely different education system and have an entirely separate national ideology and that's reflected in their democracy - it's clear to see from debates that current arguments aren't consigned only to Congress and the White House, there are plenty of 'normal' Americans who consider it deeply "unAmerican" to force them into taking out health insurance, even if it's freely provided by the State. That's nothing to do with a declaration of war and everything to do with two societies being... different.

I personally believe incredibly strongly that all public services should be provided by the State and paid for by the taxpayer, but as Gene will happily tell you, that's not the only way to approach economics - depending on your outlook, forcing socialist tax and spend policies on the People can be seen as an equivalent declaration of war or, more likely, an attempt at holding a population to ransom... and we shouldn't assume that our democracy was hewn out of any better intentions than theirs.

If our Government scrapped the NHS without it having been on their election manifesto, that could be framed as a declaration of war. It's a change to the Status Quo that hasn't been mandated by the People... but if your people vote you in on a platform of privatisation, have at it... it's what the country wants.
Paragraph 1, that's basically what this is about.

Paragraph 2, Perhaps, I mean why not. Failure to comply, or decision to oppose, could easily end in the death, injury or incarceration of the individuals at mercy in those cases. If not that then the ongoing homeland espionage is definitely an act of ware.

Paragraph 3, But you see, there was a change. The people who became the first Citizens of america did so without any other option. Going from colony, to independent state is a pretty huge change don't you think?

Paragraph 4, To be fair, I only spoke of the US because you actually brought it up. And while I do understand that some people in the US are opposed to the idea of a Nationalized health service, I can tell you that a lot of those people still chose to sign up for "Obamacare". And there are actually a lot of opponents to NHS in the UK too, if that wasn't already apparent from the state of affairs.

Paragraph 5, I'm less concerned with economics than morality, but considering the fact that Governments essentially exist for the purpose of distributing resources appropriately I don't see why something so important wouldn't be treated as a resource.

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:06 am
by Johnlenham
Agent 47 wrote:oh shit yeah haha

"BRING IT IN FFS"

im use to mixing like 10 min tunes lol, all bout dem long blends. i need a rotary mixer
Im awful for this aswell.
Dubstep starts way faster than I expect and then seems to outstay its welcome faster :lol: to the point if Im mucking about ill try and almost layer two songs over each other just because.

Saying all this all of its done on traktor, and just because I dont press the sync does not mean I cant match the pitch before hand and eyball a good place to mix in :cornlol: :oops:

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:19 am
by ultraspatial
Agent 47 wrote:
RKM wrote:
Riddles wrote:Hahaha Eric, when you were mixing 2 tunes at hobsons and the tune you were bringing in started to run out before the one you mixed it in to
this is the kind of level i'm on atm. one tune fading out nicely put the next one in sounds so legit haha, yeah practice seems to be the one, can get it in around the right place to put tracks in the intro or in those bits where it takes the drums and bass out (cannot remember the term i'm sure there is one) but there's always a few too many snares elsewhere.
is house easier? i assumed so, i really only have dubstep and some grime
i think house/techno is easier to learn beat matching

but you can be alot more creative with house and techno which takes more skill imo

also you can mix house and techno and make half an hour sound like the same tune - just keeping a constant movement which takes a lot of practise
speaking of mixing, some mates are nagging me about getting deeper into djing but i just get so bored. like it's really hard to stay focused. 20 mins into a techno set and i feel like dropping some noise or uk funky or smth. think imma go all edm tho. all about pre-recorded sets b2b doing shots w/ barely legal girls b2b crowdsurfing imo tbh

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:24 am
by ezza
yeah i do that vary rarely haha

was talking to chekov bout this the other day and sayin i dont even try to play out anymore cus i get so bored when recording a mix

all about mixing gabba with funk b2b skeng into anything close to 140

at my house we just get fucked and mix random shit all night. only way its still fun for me tbf

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:26 am
by OGLemon
Agent 47 wrote:mix random shit
this so much

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:28 am
by ezza
Agent 47 wrote:yeah i do that vary rarely haha

was talking to chekov bout this the other day and sayin i dont even try to play out anymore cus i get so bored when recording a mix

all about mixing gabba with funk b2b skeng into anything close to 140

at my house we just get fucked and mix random shit all night. only way its still fun for me tbf
these two





Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:34 am
by ultraspatial
Agent 47 wrote:yeah i do that vary rarely haha

was talking to chekov bout this the other day and sayin i dont even try to play out anymore cus i get so bored when recording a mix

all about mixing gabba with funk b2b skeng into anything close to 140

at my house we just get fucked and mix random shit all night. only way its still fun for me tbf
yeah that sounds like fun

but i meant like actually doing this at nights

was thinking about lately after i made that thread, and come to think about it, headsy nights are a bit shit :lol: i'd rather pull a steve aoki tbh

was reading some article on juno about how djing is back at the forefront of dance music nowadays and there were all these digger type dudes. don't think i've ever seen so much cringe on one page. "educating the crowd" fuck right off. who wants to hear some 30 year old italo disco tunes in a club anyway
(inb4 flames)

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:50 am
by ezza
haha yeahl i get you

i wish the 'true sound' (lol) nights were more fun. i make them fun by taking bare drugs and not being a soppy tnuc but bare ppl get pissed off

its like u can either have fun or be a head - cant do/be both

id be well up for £1 shots, a foam cannon and some heavy techno

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:03 am
by OGLemon
you should get a wonga and open up a club.
£1 shots, a foam cannon, heavy techno, deadly room, baseline room. sick vibes.

Re: Post Your Random Thoughts Thread!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:13 am
by ezza
holy shit. wat bout a snake cannon

cannon would be a cool genre too - samples of things bein shot outta cannon

bass cannon (wongas reptile cannon remix)