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Icey wrote:One of black metals biggest band is Burzum, which is a one man band. He never played a gig, yet he was one of the biggest. Same with Burial.

dr h wrote:re: Burials money side of things. We know he sells tonnes of albums, but you can break down the £10 retail (or whatever) to quite a few things. The distro will take their cut (30-60%, depending on who it is) then the label takes their share, with the artist getting the final cut. It also depends if Hyperdub has a publishing deal for Untrue too. In which case, the distro/publisher takes an even bigger cut. Obviously it's speculation, but I remember artists used to get about 15-20% of whatever is left over to the label. So if Hyperdub make £6 from every copy of Untrue they sell (and that is a push), then Burial would get about a quid. Possibly more, since Hyperdub obviously takes care of Burial enough for him to stay with the label.

So by that logic, if he sold 20,000 copies of Untrue (and this is a figure I just made up), then it's possible he made a quid for every album it sells. More with digital, since the digital distros take far less of a cut than their physical counterpart.

You can make money from compilations and the likes, as well as licensing for film/tv. Lots of small money earners that gradually make a pretty decent wage at the end.

But yeah, i'd still be surprised if he doesn't have a day job. London living = expensive as fuck. It's also been 4 years since Untrue and obviously he doesn't play live. It's a travesty that artists as big as Burial might still have to work a day job really, but that's the state of the industry, unfortunately.

I imagine in the near future he'll probably start doing live shows. He's gotten so big now that he will be able to get huge sums of money for playing live, probably at the big festivals. He could just do like Aphex Twin does and charge £20,000 per DJ set, playing a couple of times a year, or when he needs the money.

Or maybe he just doesn't give a fuck about money and lives a simple life. All speculation anyway, but quite fun to think about.

dr h wrote:

Icey wrote:One of black metals biggest band is Burzum, which is a one man band. He never played a gig, yet he was one of the biggest. Same with Burial.

Shame the two albums he has released since he left prison have been terrible.

Filosofem is an amazing album though. One of my all time favs actually.

joeki wrote:

dr h wrote:

Icey wrote:One of black metals biggest band is Burzum, which is a one man band. He never played a gig, yet he was one of the biggest. Same with Burial.

Shame the two albums he has released since he left prison have been terrible.

Filosofem is an amazing album though. One of my all time favs actually.

Filosofem is good because it is basically an ambient album on low-fi production. And then he pulled the then he added the cheapest guitar sound he could find and just squashed that on top. And it worked. It sounds like something literally recorded in some Norwegian forrest. It is indeed a good album. Other than that, I think Vickerness is an evil person. I can seperate between music and creator, but it's really hard in this instance.

JimmaJamJamie wrote:Yeah but i thought there wasn't a massive amount of money in release sales. From what i have heard all the money is in gigs?

stormtrace wrote:

JimmaJamJamie wrote:Yeah but i thought there wasn't a massive amount of money in release sales. From what i have heard all the money is in gigs?

there isn't a massive amount of money in record sales for MOST people. Burial shifts A LOT. You are off your head if you think he hasn't made some pretty damn nice ££ from his music career.

Kode9 redbull academy interview from a couple of years ago said Burials first album sold over 40,000 copies and Untrue was "A lot more"

Corse the guy doesnt have to work...

joeki wrote:

dr h wrote:

Icey wrote:One of black metals biggest band is Burzum, which is a one man band. He never played a gig, yet he was one of the biggest. Same with Burial.

Shame the two albums he has released since he left prison have been terrible.

Filosofem is an amazing album though. One of my all time favs actually.

Filosofem is good because it is basically an ambient album on low-fi production. And then he pulled the then he added the cheapest guitar sound he could find and just squashed that on top. And it worked. It sounds like something literally recorded in some Norwegian forrest. It is indeed a good album. Other than that, I think Vickerness is an evil person. I can seperate between music and creator, but it's really hard in this instance.

(Pada) wrote:

dr h wrote:re: Burials money side of things. We know he sells tonnes of albums, but you can break down the £10 retail (or whatever) to quite a few things. The distro will take their cut (30-60%, depending on who it is) then the label takes their share, with the artist getting the final cut. It also depends if Hyperdub has a publishing deal for Untrue too. In which case, the distro/publisher takes an even bigger cut. Obviously it's speculation, but I remember artists used to get about 15-20% of whatever is left over to the label. So if Hyperdub make £6 from every copy of Untrue they sell (and that is a push), then Burial would get about a quid. Possibly more, since Hyperdub obviously takes care of Burial enough for him to stay with the label.

So by that logic, if he sold 20,000 copies of Untrue (and this is a figure I just made up), then it's possible he made a quid for every album it sells. More with digital, since the digital distros take far less of a cut than their physical counterpart.

You can make money from compilations and the likes, as well as licensing for film/tv. Lots of small money earners that gradually make a pretty decent wage at the end.

But yeah, i'd still be surprised if he doesn't have a day job. London living = expensive as fuck. It's also been 4 years since Untrue and obviously he doesn't play live. It's a travesty that artists as big as Burial might still have to work a day job really, but that's the state of the industry, unfortunately.

I imagine in the near future he'll probably start doing live shows. He's gotten so big now that he will be able to get huge sums of money for playing live, probably at the big festivals. He could just do like Aphex Twin does and charge £20,000 per DJ set, playing a couple of times a year, or when he needs the money.

Or maybe he just doesn't give a fuck about money and lives a simple life. All speculation anyway, but quite fun to think about.

All speculation and a lot of it is wrong.
Sounds like you did music industry 101 at college, the rules are different for independent labels.

masaru wrote:Digital is available to buy on http://www.hyperdub.net now, mp3 and WAV available (didn't see this mentioned).

say_whut wrote:

masaru wrote:Digital is available to buy on http://www.hyperdub.net now, mp3 and WAV available (didn't see this mentioned).

When I click MP3 it doesn't respond. Anyone else getting this?

+3 wrote:

say_whut wrote:

masaru wrote:Digital is available to buy on http://www.hyperdub.net now, mp3 and WAV available (didn't see this mentioned).

When I click MP3 it doesn't respond. Anyone else getting this?

Nope. Bagged.

nclpad wrote:

+3 wrote:

say_whut wrote:

masaru wrote:Digital is available to buy on http://www.hyperdub.net now, mp3 and WAV available (didn't see this mentioned).

When I click MP3 it doesn't respond. Anyone else getting this?

Nope. Bagged.

Happened to me the first time i tried, but my computer is absolutely shit. Worked fine afterwards.