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I like the last two posted, they sound nice. Anybody want to elaborate on their tech?

Here is the actual track I'm working on with this bass:

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RandoRando wrote:hypefiend thats pretty close to the "full russian" bass, i wish xkore would have used a snare like yours though, i cant stand the drums in that songs.

thanks man i just need a little more high end and a better mix and probably distortion everything done w/ that bass was just all in massive and some minor eq'ing. the whole setup of the track was done quite quickly i just got back from school so I will have loads of time to clean a bunch of things up. I chatted with kore on drums and stuff not too long ago and he gave me great advice same w/torqux

RandoRando wrote:Why would you listen to the KORN song ? Those are simple yois you can make in massive in 5 seconds. I consider a "skrillex bass" scary monsters hnnnnngg sound, or the died this way intro. If you want the KORN song yois I have a massive patch for that

I agree with this. As I said this thread should be about the growl on Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites specifically. The rest of the growls are not as interesting. So far no one got that sound.

I have achieved the sound, using the same sound in the track above, I applied ohmicide to the mid channel only (before a bit of verb) and used the melohman to fade between various settings and it gives it the 'talking' garbly effect with mushy sounding pieces that emulate weird sounds that you can make with your mouth.

The mid-bass patch was being fed to the low channel at about 50% along with another instance of massive containing only a single sine wave oscillator and a low-pass filter with a sine LFO pitching the OSC up and down. These were both fed through Vminion with is basically a stereo filter with automation on various parameters synced to tempo, it has a preset called 'phatness' which sounds amazing on sub bass. This channel was set to 0% stereo separation since I believe that is a stereo filter as I said. I believe the algorithms in Vminion were done by Steve Duda or some such thing.

I also side-chained the mid/high bass channel with the kick and the snare (snare with a lower ratio). This helps to achieve a bit of separation between the different 'talking' sounds. The sub-bass was side-chain 'ducked' with the kick. [the sub bass was not sent to the channel with the combination of the mid/high bass, it was sent directly to the master channel]

This basically gives you a sound that you can work with (with minimal effort) to achieve all different types of the 'monster' talking mid-bass sounds that you hear in the Skrillex tracks such as scatta, scary monsters etc...

Methadose wrote:I have achieved the sound, using the same sound in the track above, I applied ohmicide to the mid channel only (before a bit of verb) and used the melohman to fade between various settings and it gives it the 'talking' garbly effect with mushy sounding pieces that emulate weird sounds that you can make with your mouth.

The mid-bass patch was being fed to the low channel at about 50% along with another instance of massive containing only a single sine wave oscillator and a low-pass filter with a sine LFO pitching the OSC up and down. These were both fed through Vminion with is basically a stereo filter with automation on various parameters synced to tempo, it has a preset called 'phatness' which sounds amazing on sub bass. This channel was set to 0% stereo separation since I believe that is a stereo filter as I said. I believe the algorithms in Vminion were done by Steve Duda or some such thing.

I also side-chained the mid/high bass channel with the kick and the snare (snare with a lower ratio). This helps to achieve a bit of separation between the different 'talking' sounds. The sub-bass was side-chain 'ducked' with the kick. [the sub bass was not sent to the channel with the combination of the mid/high bass, it was sent directly to the master channel]

This basically gives you a sound that you can work with (with minimal effort) to achieve all different types of the 'monster' talking mid-bass sounds that you hear in the Skrillex tracks such as scatta, scary monsters etc...

I've achieved a very similar sound to yours and I don't claim im anywhere near the midrange on SMANS, because simply we aren't. I have the same problems as you (and everyone else that has tried): When we apply effects to whatever synth we are using (FM8, Massive etc) it ends up sounding washed up thanks to plugins like Ohmicide. Too much top end, not enough body on the mid/mid-high frequencies. The way the "mouth" modulations are done also sound cheap. Afaik Skrillex did it automating the actual EQ's using formant presets on Ableton but I use FLStudio so I have no idea how to go about it. All pluggins that supossedly do this with a knob only (WOW filter, TalkWah effect on FM8, etc) sound like shit.

Misquote, why no delete DSF?

hey guys id love some feedback on this bass i made...i think it sounds pretty sick but i could be trippin. its made with massive, some effects, and a bit of resampling....edit:the one on the bottom is a lil choppy but i think it has potential
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dpain wrote:hey guys id love some feedback on this bass i made...i think it sounds pretty sick but i could be trippin. its made with massive, some effects, and a bit of resampling....edit:the one on the bottom is a lil choppy but i think it has potential
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they both sound like the highs have been accentuated too much

dpain wrote:hey guys id love some feedback on this bass i made...i think it sounds pretty sick but i could be trippin. its made with massive, some effects, and a bit of resampling....edit:the one on the bottom is a lil choppy but i think it has potential
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good attempt. but its obviously modern talking... : /

not made with modern talking but its unfortunate that it sounds that way i guess...the second ones actually made with granular synthesis

How does Skrillex use his sounds then apply them to music theory? For example the growling bass in Scary Monsters. This is a block I'm coming to in producing.

Make it slide on octave down, like from the key of the track and a octave down, C to C, F to F etc. the sounds in smans is the highlight if you get me, not the melodies they play

I made some similar monster sounds on my new track. Drop starts at 43 seconds in:
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Dee Reck wrote:I made some similar monster sounds on my new track. Drop starts at 43 seconds in:
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groov man you should finnshd theta

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dpain wrote:hey guys id love some feedback on this bass i made...i think it sounds pretty sick but i could be trippin. its made with massive, some effects, and a bit of resampling....edit:the one on the bottom is a lil choppy but i think it has potential
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good attempt. but its obviously modern talking... : /

Those basses sound nothing like Modern Talking. They sound good dude, good job.

Look I respect Skrillex as a musician, but you have to understand that you cant just fucking copy his methods, people will not give a damn about you because they will be so focused on Skrillex himself. My suggestion: Just ignore this thread if you dont wanna be a music copying hipster, if you do then your just going to waste your time.

Well welcome to dsf ass and yeah we get that but it's better than have a million I CAN HAZ SKRILLICKZ PATCH? Thanks for your concern now..

tutorials actually explain a lot of shit. Hell, i've searched countless hours on youtube learning new shit. Why must people bash it?

Methadose wrote:I have achieved the sound, using the same sound in the track above, I applied ohmicide to the mid channel only (before a bit of verb) and used the melohman to fade between various settings and it gives it the 'talking' garbly effect with mushy sounding pieces that emulate weird sounds that you can make with your mouth.

The mid-bass patch was being fed to the low channel at about 50% along with another instance of massive containing only a single sine wave oscillator and a low-pass filter with a sine LFO pitching the OSC up and down. These were both fed through Vminion with is basically a stereo filter with automation on various parameters synced to tempo, it has a preset called 'phatness' which sounds amazing on sub bass. This channel was set to 0% stereo separation since I believe that is a stereo filter as I said. I believe the algorithms in Vminion were done by Steve Duda or some such thing.

I also side-chained the mid/high bass channel with the kick and the snare (snare with a lower ratio). This helps to achieve a bit of separation between the different 'talking' sounds. The sub-bass was side-chain 'ducked' with the kick. [the sub bass was not sent to the channel with the combination of the mid/high bass, it was sent directly to the master channel]

This basically gives you a sound that you can work with (with minimal effort) to achieve all different types of the 'monster' talking mid-bass sounds that you hear in the Skrillex tracks such as scatta, scary monsters etc...

could we hear the sound you claim you have achieved?

thread is full of great inspiration