wub wrote:In the nicest possible way, would love to see Bale go to the continent for a shit load and turn into a Jonathon Woodgate
What British/English players have actually managed to properly take root abroad? Can think of plenty of disappointments... maybe it's just that I stop following them as much, but Beckham never seemed to quite live up after leaving United, McManaman disappeared like a gangster heading to the Costa del Crime, Owen's career pretty much fizzled out in a season at Real...
Same with Ian Rush when he went to Juventus.
Only one I can really think of was Owen Hargreaves, but he doesn't really count as he went straight from Canada to Bayern?
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:40 am
by TopManLurka
Beckham did hold it up for Madrid imo, even with the high calibre of players that they had in that squad back then.
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:41 am
by Forum
Hughes at Barca? If you count a Welsh
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:50 am
by wub
southstar wrote:Hughes at Barca? If you count a Welsh
Didn't this stem from a discussion about Bale?
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:32 am
by garethom
Isn't McManaman the most successful Brit abroad ever?
McManaman and the team then returned to Spain and established themselves as the side that went all the way to the Champions League Final in 2000, under new coach Vicente del Bosque, who had replaced John Toshack in November. McManaman's form in the build up saw him receive several man of the match awards, forming a strong midfield partnership with Fernando Redondo, as Madrid beat holders Manchester United and Bayern Munich to reach the final. It was at this 2000 UEFA Champions League Final at the Stade de France in Paris that McManaman experienced his finest hour as a player – scoring a spectacular volley in a 3–0 victory over fellow Spanish side Valencia.
Johan Cruyff described McManaman at the time as the most useful player in the "Galaticos" because he was "everyone's best partner on the pitch."
McManaman managed to pick up a second La Liga medal for the year, and was in the squad that won the Intercontinental Cup in Japan. These trophies, in addition to the others over his four years at the club, meant McManaman became the most successful English football export to ever play overseas.
Real Madrid
La Liga (2): 2000–01, 2002–03
Supercopa de Espana (2): 2001, 2003
UEFA Champions League (2): 2000, 2002
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2002
Intercontinental Cup (1): 2002
He did alright. He just wasn't covered very much, he was underrated by the press at Liverpool, and it was before the Beckham move to Madrid, so foreign football wasn't covered as much. The fans loved him, some of the best players in the world at the time loved him, he defo did alright.
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:33 am
by magma
Ah, maybe it's just that he disappeared from the England selectors sights and I couldn't be arsed to follow him then.
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:38 am
by garethom
magma wrote:Ah, maybe it's just that he disappeared from the England selectors sights and I couldn't be arsed to follow him then.
Gotta be the most underrated player ever! McManaman was a G.
And I fucking hate Liverpool...
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:42 am
by wub
garethom wrote:
magma wrote:Ah, maybe it's just that he disappeared from the England selectors sights and I couldn't be arsed to follow him then.
Gotta be the most underrated player ever! McManaman was a G.
Deeeep, just popped up on SSN. Was also heavily linked with Tottenham this week. Not very nice.
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:48 pm
by garethom
Guy didn't get the goals for Blues (he did everywhere else though, machine!) but his biggest effect was fucking defences up and allowing everybody else to chip in.
As part of the team that went 14/15 prem games unbeaten for BIRMINGHAM, he'll always be a G.
Pour out a 40 for Chucho.
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:04 pm
by hutyluty
in terms of english players abroad, gazza is still loved at lazio i think- as is john aldridge at real sociedad (despite him by all accounts being a bit of a twat)
sad to hear about benitez. I remember him having a good run of about 4 or 5 games and scoring one really great goal i think? he was going to be the guy who took birmingham to the next level etc. then he never really quite did it again.
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:06 pm
by DiegoSapiens
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:28 am
by LA_Boxers
Paul Lambert had a pretty good season at Borussia Dortmand I seem to remember.
Re: The SNH Football thread
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:31 am
by garethom
Cappello said that Trevor Francis was the best English player to have played in Serie A. Ince did alright in his short time at Inter too.
