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Put it in the past imohubb wrote:It's actually optimistic in a sence because society accept it as a condition, so they can seperate it from their being and just treat it like a condition.It seems a bit pessimistic to me
in a way.. I'd say that it's because with alcoholism the emotional depency is as big of a problem for society as the physical addiction side is, whereas with sicker rats you can't take people seriously if they had an emotional reaction as strong as the physical reaction.dickman69 wrote:Because nicotine addiction isnt classified as a disease afaik
By they I mean the individual, so that would be the way they actually put it in the past...nobody wrote:Put it in the past imohubb wrote:It's actually optimistic in a sence because society accept it as a condition, so they can seperate it from their being and just treat it like a condition.It seems a bit pessimistic to me
I went to kindergarden with this kid who later died from eating a whole frozen chicken, because he had a condition where he wasn't able to distinguish between being full and not... all the bakeries and little shops in the area had a picture of him behind the desks.. super grimForum wrote:Being an alcoholic is a psychological condition though, I'm sure there's a comparable word for serial eatersnobody wrote:Obesity is, should fatties who lose weight refer to themselves as blobs?dickman69 wrote:Because nicotine addiction isnt classified as a disease afaik
nobody wrote:I don't understand, they put it in the past by referring to themselves as an alcoholic, even if they haven't had a drink in a few years? That sounds to me like not putting it in the past.
Harkat wrote:How kosher is it to just hit up producers on twitter for dubs? Obviously you won't ever get the next medi plate or whatever but has anyone had any luck with established producers?
i mean aa functions in that very libertarian way where everything they do will empower them, so they can do bad stuff and still get the positive response from within american society because its so 'disenfranchised' in generalmagma wrote:I just meant the addiction =/ disease bit from rayman really. Most people who treat addiction, whether AA or otherwise, do actually classify it as a disease.
I've no idea about the 12-step programme... not sure I even know the other 11 steps apart from the weird "higher power" bit that everyone always bangs on about whenever AA is shown on TV. Whatever works, I guess. Is being a member of a loose cult worse than being a smackhead? Probably not. There's a lot of people living clean lives because of it... that's hard to knock.
It is ongoing. It doesn't stop. It is not in the past, it is there every day.nobody wrote:Put it in the past imohubb wrote:It's actually optimistic in a sence because society accept it as a condition, so they can seperate it from their being and just treat it like a condition.It seems a bit pessimistic to me
Why is it only really drinkers then? People who stop smoking don't call themselves smokers, fatties who get thin don't call themselves fattiesnowaysj wrote:It is ongoing. It doesn't stop. It is not in the past, it is there every day.nobody wrote:Put it in the past imohubb wrote:It's actually optimistic in a sence because society accept it as a condition, so they can seperate it from their being and just treat it like a condition.It seems a bit pessimistic to me
You posted in the middle of an erudite discussion of berries and fruit, there is no chance for your question.Harkat wrote:Harkat wrote:How kosher is it to just hit up producers on twitter for dubs? Obviously you won't ever get the next medi plate or whatever but has anyone had any luck with established producers?
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This is a dumb semantic argument. A smoker is defined as one who smokes. When one stops smoking, they cease to be a smoker. When an alcoholic stops drinking they do not cease being an alcoholic, they'll always be an alcoholic. But, and you'll love this point, they do stop being a drinker, as they (hopefully) do not engage in the act of drinking.nobody wrote:Why is it only really drinkers then? People who stop smoking don't call themselves smokers, fatties who get thin don't call themselves fattiesnowaysj wrote:It is ongoing. It doesn't stop. It is not in the past, it is there every day.nobody wrote:Put it in the past imohubb wrote:It's actually optimistic in a sence because society accept it as a condition, so they can seperate it from their being and just treat it like a condition.It seems a bit pessimistic to me